Dublin Bay South Election - Voting.

FF are just populist, traditionally centre left.
Labour are a bit further to the left and not as populist.
SF are a reincarnation of FF circa 1970, populist with a left-wing veneer.
FG are slightly less afraid of SF than FF are but they are all to the left of centre.

Personally I'm a bit of a leftie; I support a wealth tax, water charges and an overall increase in state spending. I'm not populist left though as I don't like taxing hard work, I don't agree with a "rights based society", I'm in favour of strong State regulation but against the State running things and above all else I despise Unions as they are a cancer within Irish society and the root cause of so much waste.
Therefore I vote for a left wing party which I think will do the least hard. For the last number of years that's been the party that keep Pascal running Finance.
 
Purple I know that well, I agree with most of what you post on here,
I am fed up supporting FG and FF only to be fleeced by,
I really love well paid FG/FF supporters who shut their eyes, Stop their ears, shut their mouths, and pay through the nose,
enjoy your evening and mind yourself,
 
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Fintan O'School was picking over the bones of Fianna Fail today in the Irish Times (only subscribers are good enough to be exposed to his wisdom).
I'd say he wrote the article with a smile on his face and may in fact have been aroused.
 
Gordon Gekko said:
but the campaign, run by O’Callaghan(!), was lacklustre at best.
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If you have leadership intentions, which O'Callaghan has sounded for some time, then there is method in the madness of running a poor campaign. A good performance for FF would only give Martins leadership a shot in the arm. Instead, the knives are out.
 
dereko1969 said:
Looks like 1 FG, 1SF, 1LAB and then either green or FF
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It was a very good day for Labour - they took 10x what the opinion polls say they are on nationally. Bacik should hold a seat next time.
It was a good day for SF - they didn't really want the seat but vote held up and they will hold a seat next time.
It was a good day for FG. They took their core vote and built recognition of the candidate who will take a seat next time.
It was an okay day for the Greens. The vote didn't collapse given they are the mudguard in an unpopular government.

It was a DISASTER for FF and as far as I can tell it is their worst ever showing in any election since 1932. On this kind of showing they will do even worse than their collapse in 2011.

FF polled not much more than Aontú which is a fringe party which you would not expect to gain any traction in well-heeled Dublin.
 
And the thing is, the headlines in the media were all about personnel for FF... who should lead.
Did anyone say maybe they need to look at their policies?
 
odyssey06 said:
And the thing is, the headlines in the media were all about personnel for FF... who should lead.
Did anyone say maybe they need to look at their policies?
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there is no copyright protection when it comes to political parties policies,
FG/SF has been stealing FF policies while Michael was telling us he did not agree with SF
policies that happen to be the same policies as FF sold by SF who happen to believe in them
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I was talking to a former elected member of FF on the Dublin Bay South Election count day,
He runs the local FF office
He is a dye in the wool FF supporter who live on the border between two consistencies, SF got a seat in both constituencies knocking out both FF and FG sitting TDs
When I asked him what FF was going to do to reclaim the Dail seat he has no answers,

according to him FF and for that matter, FG are struggling to find a candidate to take back the seat from SF, he cannot see SF taking another seat but things will have to change big-time for FF or FG to win back a seat off SF at the next election,
 
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