Estonia, Canada, Denmark, Spain on regional levels have all digital health systems - Germany is as well rolling digital healthcare out....I would think that Isreal is unique in that all the data it holds on its population.
I cannot think of any other countries that would have this data due to the nature of it.
Simply having digital systems isn't the same as what Israel does, the data they have is available to every health professional.Estonia, Canada, Denmark, Spain on regional levels have all digital health systems - Germany is as well rolling digital healthcare out....
e.g.:
Estonia:
Canada:An Overview of e-Health Services in Estonia
e-Health services are a hallmark of the efficiency, reliability, and traceability of the e-solutions network. See how intuitive solutions like the Patient Po...www.youtube.com
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41746-020-00326-y
Did you check the Youtube video at all? Estonian health professionals have access to the data and users can revoke / limit that right.Simply having digital systems isn't the same as what Israel does, the data they have is available to every health professional.
How would the European countries overcome GDPR to be able to replicate the Israeli system?
Yes I did but again its not what Israel does, the video, only shows an authorised person can access the information ie the mother, and of course its a good system but how it compares to how Israel has used all its data is beyond my capabilities.Did you check the Youtube video at all? Estonian health professionals have access to the data and users can revoke / limit that right.
Similiar in other EU countries
I understand that GDPR is used as a convenient way to have an excuse for inefficiency but for me it is not a valid one...
Also health professionals can access the data in the Estonian and Danish examples. So what is the difference according to you with Israel then? You remain here vague.Yes I did but again its not what Israel does, the video, only shows an authorised person can access the information ie the mother, and of course its a good system but how it compares to how Israel has used all its data is beyond my capabilities.
Read the article I posted.Also health professionals can access the data in the Estonian and Danish examples. So what is the difference according to you with Israel then? You remain here vague.
Ireland uses partially Excel and other countries like Israel, Estonia, Canada, Denmark etc have proper databases with access to the data to all proper health professionals/authorized persons....
Estonias and Denmarks per capita administered Vaccine doses are as well better than Irelands
People at every level in the HSE, doctors, nurses, administrators and managers, have stymied attempt at reform over the years. PPARS is a good case in point. This, along with all of the other issues that structural inefficiency causes, is mainly their fault. The HSE is not some abstract concept, it is the 120,000 or so people who work in it.Yes I did but again its not what Israel does, the video, only shows an authorised person can access the information ie the mother, and of course its a good system but how it compares to how Israel has used all its data is beyond my capabilities.
GDPR is an excuse for inefficiency?
Which I didRead the article I posted.
Most of the hospitals in Ireland are privately owned but publicly funded. The people who work in them have refused to standardise their IT infrastructure. I had a brain scan a few years ago and the results were put on a CD and sent by taxi from one hospital to another.Also health professionals can access the data in the Estonian and Danish examples. So what is the difference according to you with Israel then? You remain here vague.
Ireland uses partially Excel and other countries like Israel, Estonia, Canada, Denmark etc have proper databases with access to the data to all proper health professionals/authorized persons....
Estonias and Denmarks per capita administered Vaccine doses are as well better than Irelands
They also have a national identity card. We don't. We are decades behind.Which I did - it does not differ
Which I did
from the article:
"They know who has returned for a booster shot and who has opted out. Israel knows the ages, medical conditions and other demographic information of a heterogeneous population. And all this data is held by the Ministry of Health. "
That is not different to Estonia, Denmark or other Countries...
Most of the hospitals in Ireland are privately owned but publicly funded. The people who work in them have refused to standardise their IT infrastructure. I have a brain scan a few years ago and the results were put on a CD and sent by taxi from one hospital to another.
PPS numbers could do the trick if needed.They also have a national identity card. We don't. We are decades behind.
No it wouldn't. There would be strikes and pay increases and nothing would actually change. There's a reason we are amongst the highest per capita spenders on healthcare in the world but still have rubbish health services.Legislation could £easily" fix that if there would be a will.
I spoke to a nurse a while ago who had worked in the NHS for 20 years before returning to Ireland. She said that her hospital was now talking about putting reporting systems and IT infrastructure in place which was already in place in England when she started working there. She said that the levels of accountability for nurses and doctors here were just about nonexistent.PPS numbers could do the trick if needed.
But I agree with the decades behind - I am travelling occasionally for business to London and a colleague there joked the last time: "What is the time difference between Dublin and London? - 20 years.
I'm not arguing that our system is anywhere near good, like you when I was sick I had 4 hospital numbers as I had treatment in four hospitals.Most of the hospitals in Ireland are privately owned but publicly funded. The people who work in them have refused to standardise their IT infrastructure. I have a brain scan a few years ago and the results were put on a CD and sent by taxi from one hospital to another.
That idea was whacked on the head with the the Public Service Card being deemed a step to farPPS numbers could do the trick if needed.
No it wouldn't. There would be strikes and pay increases and nothing would actually change. There's a reason we are amongst the highest per capita spenders on healthcare in the world but still have rubbish health services.
Absolutely. I made the point earlier in this thread that Israel has a massive military infrastructure which can be used for this task and a national identity card to track people. It is ridiculous to compare us to them.I'm not arguing that our system is anywhere near good, like you when I was sick I had 4 hospital numbers as I had treatment in four hospitals.
BTW I was only trying to give some insight into why Israel has now rolled out vaccines to 20% of its population.
The front line heroes would be on the Public Sector Broadcaster moaning about how awful it all is etc and the populists in the opposition and in the Government parties would all jump on the bandwagon. At the end of the day the Public sector Unions are stronger than the government.Again a matter political will or the lack of it. I would have imagined that the crisis here would be used to reform the health system - as the roll out of the vaccine and the higher numbers in hospitals show all the inefficiencies and problems in the system (although they were apparent before already).
"Never let a good crisis go to waste" - but leadership is missing in action.
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