Dusty said:No I can't. However neither do I think that you will see a 50% drop in the price of your house. If\when house prices drop they don't tend to drop that far, people would rather stay put than sell their house at a sustantial amount less than they percieve it to be worth. Only those who are forced to move will do so, most will wait for prices to pick up (much like those now waiting for the bubble to burst!)
If you're honest you wouldn't sell your house now for what you bought it for two years ago? (If you will give me a call) you might knock of 10 or 20% if the market slows but any more, I doubt it...
conor_mc said:Incidentally, if neither you nor I can see any reason why my house is worth 50% more in just two years, do you not think that right there, in that one simple example, is the very reason why the Irish property market stands on a foundation of quicksand?
Remix said:What a very strange headline from the Times based on such a small data blip!
Over to finfacts :
US weekly mortgage applications down 24.9% compared with same week in 2005
http://www.finfacts.com/irelandbusinessnews/publish/article_10006885.shtml
homeowner said:Yes but you/those people are only one part of the future home buying sector.
Don't you mean 180?whathome said:Unfortunately we can't get everyone who has ever or will ever buy or sell a house in this country to tell us about sentiment. All we have is this excellent debate.
Although sentiment hasn't done a 360, I think we can say that judging from the majority sentiment in this thread that it has turned slightly. A small change in sentiment is enough to push the market over the edge in my opinion. Then you will have a much larger change in sentiment as prices stop rising and the outlook gets progressively gloomy.
redo said:Don't you mean 180?
I suppose in a way it has done a 360 since 9/11whathome said:I was just about to edit that!
fatmanknows said:i.e. people are remortgaging themselves out of arrears.
whathome said:€4M houses in Foxrock
From the Independent on May 7th:
"Selling agents Hooke & MacDonald - who report themselves as "braced for the onslaught" - will be opening the showhouse at Grove House from this weekend, appointment only"
http://www.unison.ie/classifieds/property/residential/stories.php?ca=150&si=1610478
I guess the "onslaught" wasn't quite as strong as they expected in May and they didn't sell out. They have just been listed on myhome!
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fatmanknows said:Lending policies are about to get much tighter and the batons are starting to come down" .
Looks like the party may be be ending from some and starting for others.
€4M houses in Foxrock
From the Independent on May 7th:
"Selling agents Hooke & MacDonald - who report themselves as "braced for the onslaught" - will be opening the showhouse at Grove House from this weekend, appointment only"
http://www.unison.ie/classifieds/property/residential/stories.php?ca=150&si=1610478
I guess the "onslaught" wasn't quite as strong as they expected in May and they didn't sell out. They have just been listed on myhome!
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US mortgage market rebounds on brighter outlook
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I guess everything is hunky dory again!!
Thats the big question, I dont think so. House in my area have gone up 40% in 18 months, its a crazy increase but are they going to decrease 50% or more in order for people to see negative equity? No.
S: The price of my investment property has plateaued out. There are no more capital gains to be got. I think it's time to sell.
F: Now mighn't be the best time to sell. You may have to accept a lower price than normal. Remember property is the best investment class in the long term. You should hold on to it as a pension.
S: Yeah, but the rent I'm getting isn't covering my mortgage. I have to contribute €500 myself every month
F: But this is standard for any type of investment. If you were in a pension fund you would also have to contribute a sum of money every month. With property, the tennant contributes more than half of that money. Besides rents will rise over time.
S: So you think I should continue ploughing money into my property
F: Sure. In the long term, prices will go up again. In 25 years it'll be worth a fortune.
S: Yeah, maybe you're right
If\when house prices drop they don't tend to drop that far, people would rather stay put than sell their house at a sustantial amount less than they percieve it to be worth.
Yes but you those people are only one part of the future home buying sector. The rest will be made up of apartment and small house owners looking to upgrade, older people looking to downgrade, immigrants and of course new college grads coming along or new ftbs. Your opinions are valid, but you dont reflect the whole market and your buying power is less than those who have already bought and will upgrade/downgrade.
Builder: Oversupply slump worst in 40 years
Toll Brothers slashes outlook on new homes as orders plunge and revenue misses forecasts.
Indeed, the history of human nature doesn't change much. Watch out for the 'dead cat bounce' though - it's cocky guys like you that will get nabbed.
If following reason and logic is being 'Cocky'...then hey, I'm the biggest Cock in town. The brains in this debate are all heavily on my side. Support the bull party all you want, but last drinks in this overdone partry were served months ago and most have now left and gone home to nurse their mortgages.
The brains are most definitely not on your side. Have fun purchasing a 'bargain' investment property on the first dead cat bounce and crying about it for the next decade or so.
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