Consumers to pay for storm damage to the electricity distribution network?

That doesn't matter. My claim, "There go the claims that only rural dwellers are affected by this.", stands regardless.
 
TomEdison said:
Its various components are not designed to withstand these conditions, so they won't. And, when they fail, they'll have to be replaced.
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Are you suggesting we build a distribution network impervious to falling trees and structures? If so then the most likely alternative is underground, but no one is willing to set aside the hundreds of billions, perhaps trillions, that would cost.
 
ClubMan said:
Nobody pays 57% of their overall income in tax/PRSI/USC.
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"Gross pay" at margin = €100.00
"Net pay" at margin = €47.90 (net of IT 40%, USC 8% and PRSI 4.1%)
Actual remuneration cost to the employer = €111.50 (gross of 11.15% employer PRSI)
Amount received by the employee, net of appropriations, as a percentage of the actual remuneration cost to the employer = €47.90 / €111.50 = 43%
Amount appropriated = 57%

Of which exactly nil (along with PSO levy, standing charge and VAT) is used to provide you with a resilient electricity network.

Putting red herrings in the bin all day.
 
I'm contemplating installing a small modular nuclear reactor in my garden shed so I can go completely off grid. It'll probably cost me a few million quid, but in the long run it'll be far cheaper than the standing charges that will come about if the ESB is obliged to introduce a fully stormproof national grid! Hopefully the County Council will see my logic and will grant me planning permission.
 
Gross pay" at margin = €100.00
"Net pay" at margin = €47.90 (net of IT 40%, USC 8% and PRSI 4.1%)
Actual remuneration cost to the employer = €111.50 (gross of 11.15% employer PRSI)
Amount received by the employee, net of appropriations, as a percentage of the actual remuneration cost to the employer = €47.90 / €111.50 = 43%
Amount appropriated = 57%

I think you must be very rich, earning >>standard cut off band , most normal folk experience effective tax rates of c.25%-30%

What effective tax rate did you pay last year - have you ever checked ?


If you like, Revenue could get rid of all of the tax credits, but that would mean even workers earning a miserly rate would pay the same rate of tax as those earning factors of 10X greater.

ESB should finance the cost themselves agreed, but eventually the money comes from profit of your elec bill!.
 
Leo said:
Are you suggesting we build a distribution network impervious to falling trees and structures? If so then the most likely alternative is underground, but no one is willing to set aside the hundreds of billions, perhaps trillions, that would cost.
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Agreed, putting underground is ridiculous and won't happen, last night they only compared to Scandinavian not to UK or France, most of their network is also overground.
Can you imagine the mistakes that would be made with powelines not put down accurately and then getting hit by construction works decades later. Sure didn't the OPW themselves encounter this with their wall in Dublin 4 !!
Talk of underground is a distraction away from the obvious issues of not renewing 60 year old poles and vegetation close to power lines.
We barely have enough outdoor workers for construction at the moment, there is no capability to put all the power lines underground even in urban areas.
Infrastructure not our strongest point sure we are still largely dependent on stone bridges etc built over 200 years ago. They did resilience in 19th century
 
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