The price in 1997 and up until the crash was mainly driven by the demand by, and purchasing power of, private buyers. The property market is completely different now with international capital flooding into the market both here and internationally. That's what's driven price increases here. The same money is driving prices internationally. That's what's driven material cost inflation.
Conor Skehan "The homeless industry makes me so angry"
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Hard cases make bad laws. They make worse policies.
So Public Housing is a good thing but the need for social housing is a symptom of a dysfunctional market. The solution is to fix the market so that it is not needed. Therefore social housing is a bad thing.
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No, it was huge inflows of international capital in the form of borrowed money that financed and sustained for so long the post-1997 boom in construction.
Again, no. The most serious inflation in material costs has been since the stupid Covid lockdowns messed up domestic and global supply chains. QE was going on for long long before that.
Not nearly as much. The international capital funded the banks during the boom. Now it's buying the property.
Yes, the stupid Covid lockdowns reduced the supply side of the raw materials market but the prices are still being driven to a large extent by speculative investment in the commodities market. I agree that closing the global economy for the best part of two years has been a disaster, something that was obvious from the start.
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There are 26 homeless organisations in Ireland. Most publish their annual reports. It can make for grim reading. The duplication of roles wouldn’t be tolerated in any private sector enterprise. https://pmvtrust.ie/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Peter-McVerry-Annual-Report-2021_online.pdf
There are 540 Approved Housing Bodies (AHBs)
housingalliance.ie
About Approved Housing Bodies (AHBs)
housingalliance.ie
As well as the central Govt Department, there is the following:
Housing Finance Agency
Housing Agency
Land Development Agency
and today I discovered a new one:
Approved Housing Bodies Regulatory Authority (AHBRA)
www.ahbregulator.ie
Housing Finance Agency
Housing Agency
Land Development Agency
and today I discovered a new one:
Approved Housing Bodies Regulatory Authority (AHBRA)
Approved Housing Bodies Regulatory Authority - Approved Housing Bodies Regulatory Authority
We are an independent authority, established in February 2021. Our organisation is tasked with providing the regulation of Approved Housing Bodies (AHBs) for the purposes of protecting housing assets provided or managed by such bodies.
www.ahbregulator.ie
Ok, I still think it muddies the waters because it implies the homeless themselves are complicit.
Note, I am talking about the term itself and not what it seems the author actually meant, as clarified by the comments here.
To explain further:
1. the term 'homeless' refers to people who are homeless
2. homelessNESS describes the phenomenon
'homelessness industry' would be clearer (though adds that extra syllable).
Calling it the 'homeless industry' would be like calling the medical industry the patients industry (or the doctors industry? Either way it's not equivalent)
Some of them are.
Calling it the doctors industry would be accurate.
It seems the term 'homeless' itself has been redefined a bit over the years?
I was surprised reading the article when the author referred to people with supportive family to help them over a rough patch as being homeless.
Homeless used to mean someone who was out of options altogether.
(Not saying whether this is right or wrong btw, just an observation).
I was surprised reading the article when the author referred to people with supportive family to help them over a rough patch as being homeless.
Homeless used to mean someone who was out of options altogether.
(Not saying whether this is right or wrong btw, just an observation).
True, but not the point. Don't tar all with the same brush is the point.
I'm not but there is an industry built up around homelessness and it wastes vast amounts of money.
Do you want to elaborate on what that industry is? What is being bought and sold?
As mentioned, I'm aware of the "homelessness porn" as @Shirazman called it, and I agree with that take on it.
Beyond that, what is there?
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Q&A: Are there too many homeless charities operating in Dublin?
The capital’s homelessness charities face an uncertain future with calls for more robust regulations and oversight of ‘unofficial’ services following allegations of abuse by ICHH founder Anthony Flynn.
www.independent.ie
Just reading that, my view on that whole situation is that only genuine charities run by people with vocations should be doing charity. Charities were traditionally supported by voluntary donations.
Q&A: Are there too many homeless charities operating in Dublin?
The capital’s homelessness charities face an uncertain future with calls for more robust regulations and oversight of ‘unofficial’ services following allegations of abuse by ICHH founder Anthony Flynn.
The job of the state should be to prevent homelessness as much as possible.
If a person becomes homeless because the state failed them, the state should not then get involved at that point (unless it's to offer accommodation).
As to the organisations themselves, I don't know enough to comment. (I met one person who worked with a homeless charity in Dublin a few years ago and got to know them a little bit. A wonderful person).
This report summarises trends in spending on services for homeless people https://www.focusireland.ie/wp-cont...s_On_Homelessness-Public-Expenditure-0620.pdf
One area issue which is not widely understood is that almost all services for homeless people are 100% funded by government. This includes the services provided by all the large homelessness charities. Thus the fundraising they engage in isn't actually needed to provide their core services - it is used to fund add on services which night be beneficial for homeless people (eg. additional supports for homeless children) or might not (eg. their 'research and advocacy' services). Also fund raising costs such as advertising can account a significant % of the funds raised by donations. I personally object to this because it isn't widely understood by the people who donate money to these organisations.
I also don't like how their advertising campaigns use rather stigmatising and stereotyping pictures of homeless people - typically of older men with alcohol sleeping rough - whereas in reality this accounts for a tiny % of homeless people.
By the way when a service isn't government funded this is sometimes (but not in 100% of cases certainly) a bad sign, in my experience in terms of the actual need for the service they provide or the quality of its management.
Thank you Mocame for that link.
I also found the following which gives a breakdown for Dublin spending in 2021 by DRHE of approx €150 million
I also found the following which gives a breakdown for Dublin spending in 2021 by DRHE of approx €150 million
See that's a crazy notion. It's not the responsibility of the State to prevent homelessness. Most people end up homeless due to abuse, trauma and addiction. Unless the State is going to put cameras in every room in every home in the country then they can't prevent that.
The State should put what resources it can into addiction and mental health services, though the criminalisation of addiction is a much broader issue, but it certainly can't be held responsible for every trauma and every horrible thing that happens to private citizens.