Brendan Burgess
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Colm Fagan has a good article in today's Sunday Times on why he sold CRH shares and is not ready to buy back in yet. We don't allow speculation about individual shares on Askaboutmoney so we can't discuss the substance of the article.
However, he raised some very valid comments about CRH's dividend strategy which merits discussion. I posted this response on the Sunday Times website , but the site just hung.
Brendan
Very interesting analysis, and first up, let me say that I am a long-term holder of CRH shares as part of a diversified portfolio of shares, and not because I have done the analysis which you have done, Colm.
"On the day it announced the higher dividend for 2008, it also asked shareholders for extra money by way of a “rights issue”. We had the peculiar situation that it was giving money to shareholders with one hand and asking for some back with the other. Why did it not bite the bullet and cut the dividend? Was it a reluctance to break with the proud tradition?"
I was particularly impressed with this, probably because it's something which I have wondered about myself. Of course, it's not only CRH which does this.Many public companies do it. And it's a disaster for the personal shareholders. We contribute new capital of €1,000 only to have it paid back to us as a dividend which is taxed at 51%. I presume that the institutional shareholders don't have this problem.
It's even worse when they do a share placing, and issue shares at a discount to institutional investors which dilutes the holdings of the existing shareholders. Then they pay the discounted cash as taxed dividends.
"The dividend is still 62.5c a share, so the dividend yield is about 2.5%. A yield this low is only acceptable if there are good prospects for dividends to grow in future. Profits for 2014 were just 78.9c a share,which is less than 30% more than the cost of the dividend. Assuming that the directors’ long-term goal is to pay 50% of profits in dividends and to reinvest the other 50%, profits will have to increase to about €1.30 a share before the dividend can be increased."
I think that this is not consistent with your earlier argument about a rights issue to fund a dividend and your correct comments that the level of debt is too high. I would much prefer if CRH broke with tradition and announced that it was going to change its dividend strategy and pay no dividends at all until it has cleared or, at least, greatly reduced its debts. If CRH is in a position to make great acquisitions during fire sales, then they can invest the money much better than I can. If I need an "income" from my shareholding, I can sell some of my shares.
After all, Warren Buffett has no debt - if fact he has a huge cash pile - and he pays no dividends.
One of the reasons companies are so reluctant to cut dividends, is that the investment community will regard it as a sign of a lack of confidence in the future. When a company cuts its dividend, the share price usually falls. But CRH could avoid this by timing the announcement of the elimination of the dividend with the next positive trading statement.
Fancy attending next year's AGM to make these points?
Brendan Burgess
However, he raised some very valid comments about CRH's dividend strategy which merits discussion. I posted this response on the Sunday Times website , but the site just hung.
Brendan
Very interesting analysis, and first up, let me say that I am a long-term holder of CRH shares as part of a diversified portfolio of shares, and not because I have done the analysis which you have done, Colm.
"On the day it announced the higher dividend for 2008, it also asked shareholders for extra money by way of a “rights issue”. We had the peculiar situation that it was giving money to shareholders with one hand and asking for some back with the other. Why did it not bite the bullet and cut the dividend? Was it a reluctance to break with the proud tradition?"
I was particularly impressed with this, probably because it's something which I have wondered about myself. Of course, it's not only CRH which does this.Many public companies do it. And it's a disaster for the personal shareholders. We contribute new capital of €1,000 only to have it paid back to us as a dividend which is taxed at 51%. I presume that the institutional shareholders don't have this problem.
It's even worse when they do a share placing, and issue shares at a discount to institutional investors which dilutes the holdings of the existing shareholders. Then they pay the discounted cash as taxed dividends.
"The dividend is still 62.5c a share, so the dividend yield is about 2.5%. A yield this low is only acceptable if there are good prospects for dividends to grow in future. Profits for 2014 were just 78.9c a share,which is less than 30% more than the cost of the dividend. Assuming that the directors’ long-term goal is to pay 50% of profits in dividends and to reinvest the other 50%, profits will have to increase to about €1.30 a share before the dividend can be increased."
I think that this is not consistent with your earlier argument about a rights issue to fund a dividend and your correct comments that the level of debt is too high. I would much prefer if CRH broke with tradition and announced that it was going to change its dividend strategy and pay no dividends at all until it has cleared or, at least, greatly reduced its debts. If CRH is in a position to make great acquisitions during fire sales, then they can invest the money much better than I can. If I need an "income" from my shareholding, I can sell some of my shares.
After all, Warren Buffett has no debt - if fact he has a huge cash pile - and he pays no dividends.
One of the reasons companies are so reluctant to cut dividends, is that the investment community will regard it as a sign of a lack of confidence in the future. When a company cuts its dividend, the share price usually falls. But CRH could avoid this by timing the announcement of the elimination of the dividend with the next positive trading statement.
Fancy attending next year's AGM to make these points?
Brendan Burgess
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