Catherine Day Report promising accommodation to all asylum seekers

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Many of the people getting these houses will have come into the country and them/their families will never have worked/contributed but will be housed before the people paying for them.
All major parties, the vast majority of the population and the entire mainstream media support this so it's exactly what the country deserves.
 
bill_cash said:
Many of the people getting these houses will have come into the country and them/their families will never have worked/contributed but will be housed before the people paying for them.
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How do/can you know this?
Any evidence?
 
bill_cash said:
Many of the people getting these houses will have come into the country and them/their families will never have worked/contributed but will be housed before the people paying for them.
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Well the second part of your statement is true, yes.

Non-workers and non net-contributors will be given brand new A-rated houses at very low rents, paid for by taxpayers who can't afford to buy the same houses.

I doubt that many of the tenants in these houses will be immigrants. Some maybe.
 
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Many of the people getting these houses will have come into the country
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74.5% of main applicants for social housing are Irish citizens
(Note of course that many Irish citizens may not be ethnically Irish)

15% are from within the EEA = 8,822

The remaining 10% are non-EEA.

The majority of the non-EEA are failed asylum-seekers, who have been given leave-to-remain.

I think it is bonkers that we reward failed AS with social housing.



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As far as I know - the promise of "own door accommodation" followed by housing for all asylum seekers within months has never been revoked. (That was the guarantee made in the now infamous tweet - in eight languages including Arabic!) It must, at the time have seemed like a people-traffickers dream - a Government essentially doing all the marketing for them.

If migrants of all persuasions are over-represented in housing lists and homeless accommodation, then we're effectively importing a housing and homelessness problem - and doing it actively. It's insane and completely unsustainable and guarantees the issue will never be solved - unless there's a radical re-think.

www.independent.ie

Asylum-seekers will get keys to their own homes and will be able to work - policy to end Direct Provision revealed

Asylum-seekers will get the keys to their own accommodation after four months and will be able to work after six months under a new policy to end the Direct Provision system.
www.independent.ie www.independent.ie


From the Simon Community website:

Minister Roderic O’Gorman said,
“Access to suitable housing is essential for successful integration over the long term. This research finds evidence of marked differences in migrants’ housing situations compared to those of their Irish-born counterparts. Migrants are heavily concentrated in the private rental sector and face higher risks of overcrowding and homelessness. These findings demonstrate that we need to consider housing as an important part of integration policy.
 
Howth Head said:
If migrants of all persuasions are over-represented in housing lists and homeless accommodation, then we're effectively importing a housing and homelessness problem - and doing it actively. It's insane and completely unsustainable and guarantees the issue will never be solved - unless there's a radical re-think.
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In the largest homeless hub for families, 17 of the 62 families are Irish:

"The Calauz family is one of 62 families at the hub, 17 are Irish and 45 are from countries including Somalia, Romania, Germany, and South Africa."

www.rte.ie

Children in homelessness being failed by Govt - Ombudsman

A move away from local authority house construction has pushed an increasing number of children into homelessness, according to the Ombudsman for Children.
www.rte.ie www.rte.ie
 
Howth Head said:
It must, at the time have seemed like a people-traffickers dream - a Government essentially doing all the marketing for them.
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Ireland’s media/political/NGO class refuses to countenance that organised crime groups are behind a large majority of asylum claims in Ireland.

You don’t just wash up on the shoreline at Dublin Airport having floated from Georgia or Afghanistan.
 
Oh make no mistake - the NGOs know exactly what's going on - they essentially dictated the terms of this policy.

Correct that the media largely ignored or choose to deflect - with some exeptions:

gript.ie

Minutes of meetings show extent of NGOs demands regarding Direct Provision - Gript

“One NGO stressed that safeguards were needed in Direct Provision centres to prevent sexual harassment and noted reports that " transactional sex proliferates.” The Departmental minutes disclose a culture of gangs, violence against women, and prostitution”
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That meeting was chaired by Catherine Day who was also chair of the Expert Group on Direct Provision so there is little doubt but that the input of the NGOs through the Advisory Group did have an influence on the drafting of the recommendations in the White Paper. The meeting was also attended by six officials of the Department as well as four representatives of the NGOs whose names are redacted.

The Movement for Asylum Seekers in Ireland (MASI) wanted people in reception centres to be moved into “Local authority allocations,” and that all applicants for International Protected be allowed to have drivers licenses, bank accounts and to work. Doras Luimní complained about the lack of funding for NGOS. They suggested that a “Community sponsorship system could aid in sensitising communities to diversity.”

Cultúr admitted that “gang culture” was a problem and that some of the children in the centres had been “child soldiers.” There was tension between different groups around entitlements and “cultural clashes,” something that also featured in a previous report on violence at City West.
 
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Well the second part of your statement is true, yes.

Non-workers and non net-contributors will be given brand new A-rated houses at very low rents, paid for by taxpayers who can't afford to buy the same houses.

I doubt that many of the tenants in these houses will be immigrants. Some maybe.
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I agree with this. I've a far bigger problem with Irish born people who live off the system, generally have their hands in other people's pockets throughout their whole life, perpetuate intergenerational scrounging and get all angry and indignant whenever someone else either a) gets the same handouts they are getting or when b) they are asked why they expect to live off their neighbours their entire lives. They may well work but they expect someone else to provide them with a house, fund the health and education of them and their children and massively subsidise their direct income. Then they have the cheek to suggest that they are contributors because they pay a tiny amount of tax, tax which comes nowhere near covering the cost of the handouts that receive.

Then those same people have the gall, the effrontery, to give out about immigrants coming to this country to build a better life for themselves and their children. How dare they. Have they no shame?

My answer to the "you should look after your own first" people is "Why?"
 
I don't see anyone ridiculing the children. I was merely pointing out that this couple arrived from Romania with no real means of supporting themselves in the long term in relation to accommodation. Meanwhile, they continued to expand their very large family even while living in a homeless hub. This is their right - and they look like very well looked after children.

The State is doing its very best to help them but you can imagine the difficulty in finding long term accommodation for a family of nine. As was pointed out in the Sunday Times a week ago - the majority of those in emergency accommodation in Dublin are non-Irish. It's virtually impossible to solve if this trend continues. I get annoyed when I see well paid NGO figures constantly criticizing the Government and state agencies.


www.irishtimes.com

Migrants presenting as homeless ‘directly from the airport’, housing officials claim

Officials had ‘concern’ about increase in migrants becoming homeless, internal documents show
www.irishtimes.com www.irishtimes.com
 
Dr Strangelove said:
Ireland’s media/political/NGO class refuses to countenance that organised crime groups are behind a large majority of asylum claims in Ireland.
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Is there any evidence to back that up?
I'm with you that many NGO's are just political lobby groups with an very left wing agenda but that's some assertion to make.
 
Reminds me of the guy from a certain community in a midsized western town on local radio.A longterm well known jobseeker, in his rant he said "foreigners coming here taking our dole". He took great offence to immigrants dipping into his Social Welfare fund. He was a higher class of lifelong dependent of the State.
 
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