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I can only speak from personal experience over the last 10 years dealing with customers in the USA, Europe, the UK, Asia and Ireland
They are also far more honourable in their dealing than Irish people and well stick to their word.
Basically they can make clear business focused decisions faster and better than their Irish counterparts.
They also have a far better technical and commercial understanding of what they are doing. In my experience the only other country that is at their level is Holland.
Purple, you really believe that these comments are acceptable?
- Irish people are 'less honourable' than American people.
- Americans can make clear business focused decisions faster and better than their Irish counterparts.
- Americans have a far better technical and commercial understanding of what they are doing.
If you don't understand what is wrong with them, try replacing 'Irish' with 'Black', or 'Jew' etc.
I related my experience as an Irish person doing business in Ireland and abroad. That's all.Are you now talking about customers or the business people or a nation of people on a personal level or governments in particular or what ? Each particular case, whichever you choose can be examined in the light of day and I would think be easily refutedStereotyping a diverse group as a solution is always the easy way out.
I am Irish, how can that statement be arrogant?I have to put my hand on my heart here. I think that whole paragraph is a rather arrogant statement.
Way to go stereotyping a whole diverse nation of people! Cheers!
I didn't say any of those things. You are being disingenuous. I’ll try to explain this again; I expressed a personal opinion of people that I have met and/or talked to. I did not offer judgement on a nation or race.Purple, you really believe that these comments are acceptable?
- Irish people are 'less honourable' than American people.
- Americans can make clear business focused decisions faster and better than their Irish counterparts.
- Americans have a far better technical and commercial understanding of what they are doing.
I am Irish, how can that statement be arrogant?
I didn't say any of those things. You are being disingenuous. I’ll try to explain this again; I expressed a personal opinion of people that I have met and/or talked to. I did not offer judgement on a nation or race.
Feel free to put forward the same nonsensical arguments, I will continue to re-state the facts, but don’t expect me to take your points seriously while I’m doing it.
Far better in my view to highlight specific business practices which can be changed for the better and keep any personal element out of it instead of attaching a sweeping statement to something highly personal (and unchangeable too) for a lot of people.
For all that I don't see Purple getting the same response if he posted a statement that in his dealings with British companies he found them to be generally less technically-adept than Irish companies.
Most people worth talking to are interested in the facts and truth. Therefore posting a statement and not backing it up with fact was the first mistake.
By all means deride the authenticity of Purple's opinion, but let's not attack someone just because they have one.
For all that I don't see Purple getting the same response if he posted a statement that in his dealings with British companies
So, this Castro guy then...
There's no need to project your insecurities onto "everyone else".Attempting to shift the focus of blame for a fallacious sweeping statement without substance about Irish people was a good try but I'm not buying it and I don't believe anyone else will either.
My opinion is based on my experiences over many years. This may not tally with your own insecurities and bias about Americans but it is neither fallacious nor sweeping. As you do not know me you are not in a position to make such comments.If anyone has posted an inaccuracy about Britain it should be challenged. It does not do to avoid the issue of the fallacious statement and start posting more sweeping narrow opinions.
Purple posted something and got a suitable response from the subjects of his sweeping statements.
Most people worth talking to do not insult other posters when they disagree with an opinion which has been expressed. My first mistake was engaging with someone who was not willing or able to make a distinction between expressing an opinion and making a statement of fact.Most people worth talking to are interested in the facts and truth. Therefore posting a statement and not backing it up with fact was the first mistake.
To drag this back on topic a bit .. I loved this story from RTE News about life in cuba - no toasters allowed until 2010 !
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0313/cuba.html
I read some interesing bits and pieces recently about oft quoted comparisons about how Cuba is so much better in terms of Human development than X other poor countries like Guatemala, Haiti etc.
While this may be true (and it's open to debate on some points ... you can likely but a toaster in Guatemala!) the killer point for me is that before Castro came along Cuba was as well off as Portugal & richer parts of Mexico amongst other places ... it's fallen so far behind these places that it's now compared it to countries that 40 years ago it was much more developed than in order to prove the success of the revolution etc. ... which seems to me a bit wrong.
wrt 'freedom', please refer to;Good post. The bottom line is that Cuba is under the heel of a totalitarian dictatorship. Even if they did have a good economy this would be no substitute for freedom.
We in Ireland generally take freedom for granted; most of the world doesn’t have that luxury.
There's no need to project your insecurities onto "everyone else".
bias about Americans but it is neither fallacious nor sweeping.
My first mistake was engaging with someone who was not willing or able to make a distinction between expressing an opinion and making a statement of fact.
Wishful thinking on your part. Whatever my psychological health you still fail to back up your statements with any facts whatsoever and until then I am entitled to disagree with them. Attempting to artificially create some slur that I lack self confidence is pathetic in my view.
Please choose your words more carefully in future.
To try to suggest I have any bias against Americans is laughable. I consider Americans as equals with similar values to ourselves. This is not even relevant to your fallacious ideas unsupported by any fact whatsoever.
I consider any suggestion that I do not like America to be Muck Slinging. You have no concept of the depth of my relationship with America and with Americans at all levels of society including friends who are serving in Iraq right now 'burning poop' (look it up). Like the ideal America my personal ideals are of truth ,justice, freedom and fairness.
Muck Slinging will not advance any of the fallacious arguments which you have failed to back up with any facts whatsoever. You have failed to advance your narrow unsupported views and I find stooping to that level quite disappointing. As you do not know me you are not in a position to make such comments.
If I was you I would respect someones right to a counter opinion without stooping to insults and unfounded accusations about where someones loyalties and sentiments lie.
You say your opinion is based on your experiences over many years, yet you seem to have created some ridiculous biased opinion of me over a miniscule length of time which will not distract an intelligent reader from the facts. If you wish to win over the lower IQ (Jerry Springer) section of the audience then good luck.
Now lets get back to Castro please.
When I question your motives for this you throw a tantrum...
Let's get back to Castro.
My opinion is based on 10-15 years experience dealing with Irish, American and other European countries. Therefore it is not groundless. Your experience may differ but they may also not be groundless. I think the core problem may be a lack of understanding of language on your part. Opinion and fact are not the same thing. At no time did I present my opinion as fact.It's gone far beyond your original groundless opinion.
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