Brexit and the Border

I think the border issue should be looked at from a different perspective. Those who argue that there is no need for customs controls and border checks, ie 'hard border' between UK/EU in Ireland, should be asked if there will be customs controls and border checks between UK/EU anywhere else?
If not, wouldn't that make a mockery of 'taking control of borders'?
 

That's the issue the DUP had with the Backstop. May's solution; it now applies to the whole UK. That in turn is the problem many Brexiteers have with May and her revised backstop; it could potentially keep the UK in the EU indefinitely.
Basically the Brexiteers were called our on their nonsense about "Technological solutions" and the United Kingdom Conservative and Unionist Party (Conservatives for short) were happy to screw over the Nordie Unionists as long as "The Mainland" got out of Europe clean.
 
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Absolutely. But I would like some of our (or their) prominent broadcasters to actual put the question to them in that form - if there is no need for customs and immigration controls between UK/EU in Ireland, then why have any customs and immigration controls between UK/EU in Britain?

I have engaged with plenty of Brexiteers over this and none can return a rational or reasonable answer without 1) showing up the fallacy of their position, as you have pointed out, or 2) exposing the myth of mantra like "taking back control of our borders"
 
I find it amusing that you talked to brexiteers and expected their responses to rational questions to actually be rational. Any I have engaged with have always found their arguments running up cul de sac's. Being thick is an entitlement of many a human.
 
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