Presumably Rory's alter ego is a 'she' (Ms. Panti / Ms. Pandi) and should therefore be referred to in the feminine gender, while Rory if he has not had a gender alteration operation, is still a 'he'.
This would be consistent with other artistes who have a counter-gender persona e.g. Lilly Savage / Paul O'Grady, Robin Williams / Mrs Doubtfire, Brendan O'Carroll / Mrs Brown, Barry Humphries / Dame Edna Everage, etc.
Why?Why not stick with what his birth cert say?
I can assure you that was not the main complaint about Ms Powers article! The main complaint would be that it was offensive bigoted drivel from start to finish, as was the self-justifying follow up a week later.
And if you are referring to someone who is wearing a dress, high heels, full make up and is known as Ms or Miss, then the correct pronoun is she. Not rocket science.....
If they are known as ms or miss it still doesn't make them a she if in fact they are a he. What's the big deal in calling someone by their correct gender?
It could be construed as bad manners but if the person addressing the other is uncomfortable using an incorrect term then it seems only right that they do what seems right for them. It is hardly going out of the way either tbh.Whats the big deal in having some manners and calling someone the title they prefer? No-one said he actually becomes a she, but going out of your way to do the opposite of what everyone else does is just rude. Which presumably is the point?
It could be construed as bad manners but if the person addressing the other is uncomfortable using an incorrect term then it seems only right that they do what seems right for them. It is hardly going out of the way either tbh.
I wouldn't call you Dr unless in fact you were it doesn't make sense. If I wanted to be referred to as Lord would it be rude for people to say otherwise? of course it wouldn't it is just petty to even get worked up slightly by it.I disagree. If my title is Ms but that makes you feel uncomfortable you would still be rude in referring to me as Mrs or Ms. Same if my title is Dr and you don't like that, its sort of tough.
If it makes you uncomfortable to call someone by the title they use and prefer, best action probably would be to not talk to them or about them, thereby solving yourself the problem.
I don't think I would like anyone expecting me to refer to them in a title of their choosing, they may expect it of their inner circle but for the wider community expectations should be lowered.I would construe this as bad manners. If I ask someone to refer to me using a particular title then I would expect them to use it. I do not understand why using the title I prefer to be addressed would make someone 'uncomfortable' unless it was profane - which in this case it is not.
I don't think I would like anyone expecting me to refer to them in a title of their choosing, they may expect it of their inner circle but for the wider community expectations should be lowered.
I don't think I would like anyone expecting me to refer to them in a title of their choosing, they may expect it of their inner circle but for the wider community expectations should be lowered.
I see you've failed to grasp my point, but you get points for amusement.Fair enough Mrs Man.
I suppose I should have said 'an appropriate title of my choosing' because I assume if I ask you to refer to me as Professor Truthseeker it might be a little strange considering I am not actually a professor.
"I wouldn't call you Dr unless in fact you were it doesn't make sense. If I wanted to be referred to as Lord would it be rude for people to say otherwise? of course it wouldn't it is just petty to even get worked up slightly by it. " MrsMan.
But what if I have a doctorate in Philosophy but you are uncomfortable using the term for anyone but a medical doctor? Your discomfort does not negate my referring to myself as Dr Jaybird. If you wanted to create a persona for yourself with the clothes and rigmarole and so on and call yourself Lord, I'll call you the same, its good manners as far as I am concerned. I might privately think you are barking mad, but my manners would preclude me from saying so! And I don't think it is petty. Transgender politics are not petty when you are a campaigner for same, so I don't believe this issue is petty at all.
I think its pretty clear here that the refusal to call someone Miss while they are using a female persona is about a lot more than the actual title. If you wish to call someone Mr when they refer to themselves as Miss, you are of course fully entitled to, but it says a lot more about you than it says about them.
The fact that anyone could get worked up about having their gender correctly referred to is just a little bit sad imo. I have no problem with a guy dressing up in ladies gear and calling himself Dolly or whatever but i also have no problem with others referring to Dolly as 'Brian' if thats his/her real name. Its just a name. We are all different even those rude people who are happy to say things as they see them rather than how others expect them to see things. You can even change my name to Missman when your done using Mrsman, I wont be offended.
Do you ever stop to think about what other people think or feel about it, and how important it might be to them? Or do you just not care?