We really don't have enough information here to make that judgement.An extortionate price.
We really don't have enough information here to make that judgement.
I would be concerned that you set a budget of 275k and the architect has been engaged to design, tender and PM has designed something that is now 500k (presuming excluding a kitchen).
I am not an expert, but I don't see how the variation can all be put down to material and wage increases.
On the flip side, I have engaged with Architects recently who have not given cost estimates and ask I employ a QS and that they essentially just do the drawings.
A lot will come down to the specifications and materials. Access challenges will add to the cost. With that budget, appointing a good QS will ensure you are getting good value for money. An architects budget estimate will be just that, have you spoken to contractors about getting a price for the job or does the architect contract include full management?I have seen everything from 1.6k including VAT to 3k without so I just have no idea what's a reasonable price. We're in Galway city if that makes a difference.
The figures they estimated did include sanitary ware, kitchen etc,. but the amount assigned was not large (12k for kitchen and utility). I don't think this would cover a whole kitchen once appliances are included.
We really don't have enough information here to make that judgement.
@Aliwag thanks for sharing the details it's interesting/scary to see these costs, we are considering doing a job also.
Could you share the sqm of new build and refurbishment.
I assume with that level of budget you have specified to bugest for higher end finishes and A rating the existing house?
Also does his budget allow for flooring/painting/landscaping etc or just construction?
So what do you think would be a fair price for the design and specification requested?In fairness, we have enough information to make all sorts of judgements.
It sounds like there were conflicting requirements here, perhaps the architect was given the impression that requirements and specification were more important than budget.For me its the utter disregard of the clients instruction would be a red flag for me.
It will have to be B2 at worst or it won't be compliant!It would be a B2 at best I think.
So what do you think would be a fair price for the design and specification requested?
It sounds like there were conflicting requirements here, perhaps the architect was given the impression that requirements and specification were more important than budget.
You haven't clarified what information you saw here that confirmed that the price was extortionate?The plans should be within budget. What's the point of setting a budget if its ignored.
Architect exceeded his brief. Simple as that. Most people don't pay Architects to do impressions. (double pun intended).
So your paying for the Architects solution (vision) of the brief. Fair enough. But when his solution is vastly more expensive than the brief without satisfying it, they are on a ego trip.
You haven't clarified what information you saw here that confirmed that the price was extortionate?
I haven't seen the brief, perhaps you might share it with us?
To be fair, the proposed extension is bigger than the average Irish house! And the job also involves the renovation of the existing property.You could build a brand new house for 500k.
No, but without even a hint of the area of the proposed development, an opinion that a price is extortionate is clearly based on assumptions, and assumptions that are very much false in this instance.The OP comments both describe enough of the budget and brief to make that assessment. In my opinion.
I don't think you need to count every rivet to see a iceberg ahead. In my opinion.
No, but without even a hint of the area of the proposed development, an opinion that a price is extortionate is clearly based on assumptions, and assumptions that are very much false in this instance.