How ironic...People who put their trust in horoscopes, astrology and mediums lack trust in God and are "colluding with an illusion", a senior Catholic churchman said today.
Dr Brady said people were "seeking to control their future rather than entrust their future to God's promise and plan".
Having faith has helped more than it has hindered
Having faith has helped more than it has hindered, and he is just preaching from what he clearly believes is correct.
Very much debateable as others have suggested.Having faith has helped more than it has hindered
Of course he is quite entitled to do this. But others are also entitled to disagree and consider his views contradictory and illogical (e.g. our hocus pocus is better than others' hocus pocus).and he is just preaching from what he clearly believes is correct.
Imagine the uproar if he read the same speech but used "Islam" in place of "fortune-tellers"? Even though surely, this is something he also "believes is correct".
I think most people here, regardless of God/Catholicism, would agree that tarot card readers and fortune tellers are a load of nonsense. Therefore I dont really see whats so scandalous about the archbishops remarks? He's not crazy about them either. You have something in common with him.
I see no difference in Tarot Card readers/Fortune Teller or the so called teaching of the catholic church...
Tarot card etc is based on superstition and getting people to hand over money and the catholic church is based on eh.... superstition and handing over money....
Little if no difference from what I can see...
Hence the title of this thread... "Pot calls kettle black"
useless, uninformed twaddle
a simplistic statement in the extremethe catholic church is based on eh.... superstition and handing over money....
MrMan said:I do feel that it is simply ignorant to describe ones faith and/or religion as
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useless, uninformed twaddle
My point is that faith is like a great hope, something that you can have regardless of your wealth or if you are 'less educated'.
Yes. Anyone can have faith but it still doesn't mean there is any logic or real sense to it. My point was that while some believers accept this, many (mostly less educated) don't even realise this and have never considered or questioned their own 'beliefs'.
I think there is a big leap there from fortune teller to Islam. Of course there would be total uproar. Are you sure this is something he also "believes is correct"? (Note: Im not disagreeing with you, Im just curious as to facts behind this statement). While Islam is not Catholicism there are many similarities in the area of Faith. I really dont think that is a statement someone (of any religion) would come out with.
It is impossible to have a duality of faiths - faith is based on believing that one particular religion is the "true" one. So the Archbishop must be similarly disdainful of a growing population of followers of Islam as well as followers of the occult. However, he picks the considerably softer target of the occult for his speech.27 " 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' " (Leviticus 20:27, NIV)
I think most people here, regardless of God/Catholicism, would agree that tarot card readers and fortune tellers are a load of nonsense. Therefore I dont really see whats so scandalous about the archbishops remarks? He's not crazy about them either. You have something in common with him.
I am coming from a stance that i don't practice any form of religion, but I do feel that having something to believe in is important. In times of despair or when feeling at your lowest I do pray for some help to get me through or to help someone else. My point is that faith is like a great hope, something that you can have regardless of your wealth or if you are 'less educated'. Tarot cards etc may be a form of faith, but they generally come with a parting of cash so it would be of my opinion that they are there to con the vulnerable, though i am sure there is also an element who do have great faith in them.
what I don't like is that when the church (catholic) is mentioned so many people seem to try to shout them down and say they are a joke, con etc and how foolish were our parents, grandparents etc for letting them have so much power in their day. I do feel that it is simply ignorant to describe ones faith and/or religion as
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