i didnt stop fully just rolled up to the stop sign seen no cars coming so drove on .
got a letter in the door this mornin for 2 penalty points and an 80 euro fine for not stopping at a stop sign . . .. i didnt stop fully just rolled up to the stop sign seen no cars coming so drove on . . . but on the letter the address is wrong and one of the numbers is missing from the reg of my car . . would there be much point in appealing this ??? has anyone appealed before ?? how do you go about appealing ??
Actually, I got a speeding ticket handed to me by a guard back in 2004 or so. He wrote my reg number down incorrectly on the ticket. I was doing 36 or so in an unsignposted 30 mph zone, before anyone gets on my case.
I rang up the fines office and told them that the charge was surely incorrect as I wasn't in a car with that registration number. The guard had written 00 D instead of 02D. The fines office told me to send it in to them with a letter, and a few weeks later they sent it back saying that it had been withdrawn (or words to that effect) and the points weren't added to my licence and I didn't have to pay the fine.
Might be worth trying.
if the reg number is missing a number any judge worth his salt will dismiss the penalty. Talk to your solisitor, but you have a very strong case for appeal! By the way do they have a photo of your car committing the offense??
I'm fed up of the number of posts on here that say "I broke the law but because of x-y-z admin issue I don't think I should have to pay the fine or suffer the consequences..."
Suck it up people.....!!!!!
And I'm fed up with hearing and reading about the amount of mistakes occurring with the issuing of tickets/fines/summonses/notifications etc.
If the authorities entrusted with the administration and enforcing the upkeep of our laws cannot collect and collate evidence in a correct and efficient manner then maybe those people shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
If evidence of an alleged offence is not properly collected and presented than this will lead to total mayhem within the judicial system.
Where do you stop?? EG. One or two or three letter(s) wrong on the reg, one or two or three letter(s) wrong in the defendants name? Wrong location of the alleged offence, ("Ah sure its only round the corner, its close enough") ? Or do we draw the line at "Well your Honour it was the same colored car that ran down and killed the woman, and I was fairly close with the reg". (extreme I know, but just to make a point)
NONE of these or similar errors should be allowable and if judges were not so quick to amend them in court, then maybe, just maybe, the Guardai might be a bit more diligent in their processes.
PetrolHead, if say you stopped for 10secs to let Mrs. Petrolhead out of the car on a clearway one quiet afternoon. Then some months later you receive a summons to court to answer the charge of non payment of fixed penalty (that you never received). The summons has misspelled your name and wrong car reg and say wrong date, but at the back of your mind you vaguely remember dropping off Mrs.Petrolhead somewhere/sometime close to the location mentioned.
Would you (be honest) be happy to "Suck it up" as you so eloquently put it?
And I am fed up of people excusing others who openly break the law and look for stupid loopholes to get off. Clogging up the system and costing the state and me as a tax payer a fortune.
The poster admitted he was wrong. HE broke the law. Now face the consequences.
Any other little anecdotal rubbish just gets in the way of that fact.
got a letter in the door this mornin for 2 penalty points and an 80 euro fine for not stopping at a stop sign . . .. i didnt stop fully just rolled up to the stop sign seen no cars coming so drove on . . . but on the letter the address is wrong and one of the numbers is missing from the reg of my car . . would there be much point in appealing this ??? has anyone appealed before ?? how do you go about appealing ??
got a letter in the door this mornin for 2 penalty points and an 80 euro fine for not stopping at a stop sign . . .. i didnt stop fully just rolled up to the stop sign seen no cars coming so drove on . . . but on the letter the address is wrong and one of the numbers is missing from the reg of my car . . would there be much point in appealing this ??? has anyone appealed before ?? how do you go about appealing ??
It was a minor road traffic offence.
In this case the guy admitted he was wrong.
This is a road traffic incident where someone should show some cop on admit he was wrong and take it on the chin. In this incident personal responsibility should take precedent than procedural issues.
I do understand your point about the importance of procedure, I think it on minor issues like this, it needs to be balanced with a degree of personal responsibility and civic mindedness.
It REALLY gets my goat when people do not read what I post, or choose to "read" it with a slant.
Whilst being in danger of drifting off the topic of this thread, I NEVER once mentioned or brought into my posts the OP or his particular predicament, but you are constantly trying to reference my posts with his situation (see above).
For the final time, my one and only point I am trying to make is:
Mistakes in the administration and procedure pertaining to prosecuting/fining/summonsing alleged perpetrators should not be happening to the extent that it does. These sort of mistakes can and sometimes do have far reaching consequences, from the lowest charge all the way up to the highest.