Anyone sold without EA?

Muffinb

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Hi I am going to be selling 3 bed house with site attached with FPP for 2 bed. Dont want to pay EA as not sure that they will "earn" their fee as such as I hope it a no-brainer. Good enough area on southside of Dublin near all amenities with great transport etc. Have solicitor I have dealt with before ready to do the legal side with moneis etc so cant see a problem
Just wondering has anyone any advise etc or does anyone think Im mad??
 
Re: Anyone sold without EA???

I sold mine some years ago, same as 120 others in estate so knew what it was worth. Once price was agreed purchaser paid deposit to my solicitor and everything went through without a problem. I got 2K more than E/A said I would get, and didin't have any E/A fees. In todays market though and especially with a house and site I think a reputable E/A would play prospective customers far better and would probaly get you a better price. I'm no fan of E/A's myself but today in your case I think I would use a good one.
 
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Thnaks twoforone, thats helps a lot. Ill see what others say too but it will kill me to pay them. I will also have to pay Capital gains on both as the house has been rented so thats bad enough without adding 6 grand or whatever the going rate is to it too!
 
Hi Muffinb,

Why not give it a go yourself, you have nothing to lose. So long as you price it right and do you research on that front and are willing to show the house. If worst comes to worst you can then turn to EA. Best of luck.

Angela59
 
I sold my estate house in Swords in December 06 on Daft for €6000 more than the asking price the local Remax agent suggested - it cost me €91. Why not give a try for a few weeks to test the market? In my view no one knows your house better than you so (in theory) you're the best person to sell it - make sure your describe the house well, take good photos and price it sensibly. Also prepare it well - clean, clean, clean!!

Good luck.

Sarah W

www.mortgagesoverseas.com
 
All sound advice so far, but on a cautionary note, I found it very difficult to 'present' my admittedly not run-of-the-mill house in a way attractive to potential purchasers.

I found it very hard to be detached from the house and while I even had a thankyou note after one viewing, I had no proper interest.

Not having netted a sale for a long time, I finally met an agent who had her head screwed on and she did a good job of both promotion and selling and she earned every penny of her fee.

Give it a go without but if you do opt for an agent, do choose carefully as they are definitely not all the same.
 
Be prepared for criticism of your house and your taste in decor - keep all dealings professional and business like. Perhaps get a friend or colleague to walk through the house first - something that you may be oblivious to (such as the smell of a dog or old fashioned carpet) might put other people off. Also be prepared for "messers" - people who put in an offer and then create delays and don't answer the phone, etc. Daft offer a superb service.
 
Dont want to pay EA as not sure that they will "earn" their fee as such as I hope it a no-brainer.

If you feel that strongly about it I wouldn't even consider using the services of an agent. You could also look at it as a transaction that is going to far outweigh (usually) the magnitude of any other financial transaction that you undertake, so would you be better off in letting a professional deal with it. If agents don't earn their fee what else would you propose that they do for their money?

In my view no one knows your house better than you so (in theory) you're the best person to sell it

Nice sentiment but rarely the case. If I ever do a viewing and the owner is insitu it really puts up a barrier as viewers don't tend to relax because they feel they can't speak freely.

My advice is to research your local agents meet with them and if you honestly feel that none of them are up to scratch then go it alone. You won't have the same coverage but it'll be your decision.
 
There were a number of web site offering EA-free (a good thing, some might say) services to sellers and buyers. I vaguely remember seeing this on breakfast TV some time ago, although I would not be at my sentient best in the AM. It might be worth checking out.
 
Nice sentiment but rarely the case. If I ever do a viewing and the owner is insitu it really puts up a barrier as viewers don't tend to relax because they feel they can't speak freely.

But there's a big difference between owners milling around in the background and the owner actually doing the viewing themselves! I was able to tell prospective buyers about the neighbours, local services, average heating costs, what improvements I'd had done and when, etc. Not information an estate agent would usually have to hand.

Sarah W

www.mortgagesoverseas.com
 
I was able to tell prospective buyers about the neighbours, local services, average heating costs, what improvements I'd had done and when, etc. Not information an estate agent would usually have to hand.

Well an EA should/would know the local services, surrounding area/neighbours, and would ask you what improvements/alterations had been made. Regarding average heating costs, they may take your estimations with a pinch of salt as they would an Ea but its a rarely asked question.

But there's a big difference between owners milling around in the background and the owner actually doing the viewing themselves!

The problem is people are slow to critisize someones house to their face.

There were a number of web site offering EA-free (a good thing, some might say) services to sellers and buyers.

Good idea if you look as these websites and make a comparison with an EA's you will soon see what your up against.
 
be wary of EA vested interests here warning you off selling yourself

If the price is right (and it is 99% price these days withstanding the location) then you can sell it yourself - spend the money getting a proper solictor to legally bind the buyer into a contract (once they sign) - get a 10% cash deposit upon signature - this is your only real comeback if they back out - sueing for non-performance is rarely worth it if mortgage needed

I did it myself (2006) and have pride that no EA has beat my price since
 
done it myself and saved 5,500 in EA fees, there is a website called sellityourself.ie
 
Not long ago I tried to sell a house through and estate agent and I told them I wanted 'x' amount for it, withing a day of it going on the market I had an offer within 10K of the asking price, the agent was anxious that I should accept it. I said no I want full asking price, every couple of days he came back with offers which were within 3k of the asking price, I politely declined and told him not to contact me again with any offer below asking price, he told me he was legally obliged to pass on all offers, I told him that as my 'employee' (as he was in this case) I authorised him to refuse all offers on my behalf. He wouldn't stop though, and in the end I told him if he contacted me again with offers below asking price I would remove the house from the market. At the end of the month I assume he was getting desperate for the sale (and the commission) and he got back onto me begging me to accept an offer 2K below asking price saying it was the best we would get......falling house prices....etc....etc... so I dismissed him and took my house off the market with his agency.
Two weeks later I put it back on the market privately with an ad in the paper for 2k more than my previous asking price (thinking someone would haggle me down to it). I had many viewings and several offers and after about ten days I sold it for full asking price. The money saved paid for a nice holiday at Christmas.
I would never use the services of an estate agent again......
 
be wary of EA vested interests here warning you off selling yourself

Is there another Ea in this thread that I have missed?

I would never use the services of an estate agent again......

In fairness they did muck you about getting within 2k of asking, how come nobody asks wheter the EA bashers are actually vested interests which could quite possibly be the case given the nature of the stories, i.e I did it myself in no time and got loads of money, it usually seems to me like not a full story.
 
HI
just looking into selling my house via a website and cutting out EA. Not meaning to thread jack but what else is involved in selling yourself? If it is taking pictures ( i am a part time pro photographer) preparing the house for viewing and taking the time to show. Then i could handle that. I can also advise the potential viewer on my house as already posted above. The saving is making the whole thing very interesting.

If we were offered the asking price and advised the solicitor of the deposit coming and they sorted the legal stuff i dont see why not?

If anybody would care offer there experience please pop me an email to
info @ brooksphotography DOT tv (remove spaces)

Thanks
 
I did it myself in no time and got loads of money, it usually seems to me like not a full story.

So what exactly is your market strategy this time - hello mr seller - could you drop the price please from the unrealistic selling quote I gave you to win the business in the first place so that some interest may materialise

Repeat and Rinse

What are you going to do - magically produce a list of eager preapproved buyers to play bidding games with (dang - that only works in a rising market), or pony up the seller's deposit / stamp duty yourself.

Go on, convince me of the tangible value that an agent can deliver today - apart from advising prices decreases till the market responds

I will name one only and that is access to Myhome.ie (blocked to the public by EA vested interests - the Times likes to protect its advertising revenue)
 
So what exactly is your market strategy this time - hello mr seller - could you drop the price please from the unrealistic selling quote I gave you to win the business in the first place so that some interest may materialise

Have you had a nasty experience, do you need an arm around the shoulder?
The first point of practice is not to issue an unrealistic selling price to win business as it makes no business sense to take on a property that will not sell.

What are you going to do - magically produce a list of eager preapproved buyers to play bidding games with (dang - that only works in a rising market)QUOTE]

That doesn't necessarily happen in a rising market, it depends on the area. Most agents would/should keep a database of people that look for a particular area, price, house type etc and they can be contacted, fact not myth.

or pony up the seller's deposit / stamp duty yourself.

Should that be purchasers stamp duty?

Go on, convince me of the tangible value that an agent can deliver today - apart from advising prices decreases till the market responds

Advising price decreases has actually been the advice by the majority of posters on this site on related issues, so its funny that you should pin that on EA's. Even lately there has been OPs staing that their EA was advising against dropping price and you guessed it, the EA was accused of not doing right by their client.

Regarding service, I rarely use myhome as daft seems to get a better return down here as do the local papers. Further value that can be added is an office that can have your property on show with a sales brochure for those that dont use the net, agents can be contacted pretty much 7 days a week, we would have a much broader knowledge of the market, you do need to know more than your area as people will be keen to make comparisons, an agent can bring a client from another property to yours because they tick similar boxes, on top of all that issues of property law, planning, stamp duty etc are better dealt with by a professional.

There good and bad agents out there, just like any other profession. It pays to shop around and not to transfix on the selling price or the fee.
 
Wow, didn't my thread cause havoc!!
Fair play to all who responded and argued!!
Anyway I am gong to try it myself an see how it goes. Ill try daft and if al else fails use EA after but Im still not convinced of the benefits of using an Ea as cost of oe sems to be extreme imo.

I can take photos, describe best I can, list local amenities bus routs etc.
Viewings should be no problem to me as house has been rented for years so no attachment there and prospective buyers will be made aware of it.

If all else fails and Im prove wrong then Ill throw in the towel and admit defeat. ( but I fight a mean battle and dont usually lose) Ive watched way too many Kirsty and Phil programs on digital....here goes....
Anyonw else going to have a go???
 
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