Anti High Rise Nimbys in Cork

to give an indication of how powerful the CSD is they also succeeded in blocking the provision of affordable housing in Bishopstown. Three years ago the government wanted to give the City Council Dept of Argriculture land on the Model farm road as part of its promise under Sustaining Progress ( which has now ended) to provide an extra 10,000 affordable houses. One of the conditions was that it would be used for the provision of affordable housing. However following pressure from the CSD and their counciller lackeys they decided to reject this offer. According to their website the reason why the CSD took this position is


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Supporting the Dept. of Agriculture staff in preventing 100 jobs being moved out of Model Farm Road. [/FONT]

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bearishbull said:
Having read the links they seem more concerned about loads of students living in the area.
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more that these students will no longer be forced to live in the overcrowded, overpriced, run down rented houses owned by CSD members in Bishopstown. These Sec 23 student developments are five mins walk from UCC and away from residential developments. that is why

"The rapid increase in building of accomadation for students must be halted in order to prevent large amounts of students liveing in one area"
 
ubiquitous said:
This would be funny were it not so serious. There is already a "doughnut effect" problem in Cork city. City centre schools are closing and/or reducing pupil facilities because of falls in the number of kids in the city centre. Meanwhile, couples and young families are settling down in the newer districts on the outskirts of city, leading to shortages of school places in those districts. Insane is the only word for it.
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This is, unfortunately, to be entirely expected. Most city centre apartments in Ireland are designed for a transient adult population. You buy/rent a one or two bedroom apartment in your twenties. When you settle down and start a family you buy a house in the suburbs or a nearby commuter town.

Until planners insist on more larger apartments in developments, this situation is not going change. Of course, only the very wealthy will be able raise a family in these penthouses.
 
bearishbull said:
the sooner we get the political element out of planning our cities the better.every other modern capital city has well planned high rise and high rise isnt a problem.
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It already happened. The politicians have no role in approval of specific planning permissions. Planners and/or senior management make the decisions. If appealed, these go to Bord Pleanala.
 
madisona said:
ah but where does the city centre end and the suburbs begin. Victoria Cross is about a 10 min walk from the City Centre. IMO the stretch of land on the left going out from the city centre along the Western road and Carrigrohane road would be perfect for high rise (10-15 story) apartment developments. There is also a lot of development land available ( the old petrol station, greyhound track etc) These apartments would be on a main road and within walking distance of the city centre and not really overlooking current residential estates in the nearby "suburb" of bishopstown. Instead people are buying 3 bed semis in places like Midleton, Macroom, Bandon etc which are 20-30 miles from the city and not really where they want to be. This is also causing major traffic problems in the City. I also think the issue of design is a red herring. If this is the issue they could insist on certain architectural standards rather than banning outright all high rise ( btw I don't agree either with their definition of high rise as anything that is four stories)
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well with all due respects, Victoria Cross is 100% not city centre in cork. its closer to walk to the current county council administration area from Victoria X than it would be to walk to the city. The Greyhound Track is owned by UCC and will feature new academic buildings so doesn't count.
 
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