In an ideal world yes but I think we all know that sales will hardly be affected by it despite the critisim. I would rather see the editor face sanction for letting it go to press. Lets be honest and say he should have been sacked after the Liam Lawlor incident. Going back in time didn't Paul Kimmage resign from the SINDO due to the headline that the paper used for an interview he did with Roy Keane. They took a quote from Keane about his wife out of context and plastered it on the front page. Seems like they never learn.
In an ideal world yes but I think we all know that sales will hardly be affected by it despite the critisim. I would rather see the editor face sanction for letting it go to press. Lets be honest and say he should have been sacked after the Liam Lawlor incident. Going back in time didn't Paul Kimmage resign from the SINDO due to the headline that the paper used for an interview he did with Roy Keane. They took a quote from Keane about his wife out of context and plastered it on the front page. Seems like they never learn.
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Gawd, I'd completely forgotten that. Yet another of the Sindo's finest moments. Just looked it up, this was the relevant extract from the interview:
Kimmage: That same photograph was the first time I noticed your tattoos?
Keane: Yeah, very painful.
Kimmage: What are they?
Keane: I've got my kids on my right arm: Shannon, Caragh, Aidan and Leah. And on the left (arm) it's just a standard cross. The wife did ask me why didn't I get hers (name put on) and I said 'they'll always be my kids but you won't necessarily always be my wife,' which she wasn't too pleased about. (laughs)
The Sindo ran this across the top of the front page: "They’ll always be my children but she mightn’t always be my wife", feeding in to the rumours that Keane was having marital problems at the time.
Kimmage resigned and the Sindo published an the next week: "ON the front page of last week's Sunday Independent, we published a quotation from an interview given by Roy Keane to our writer Paul Kimmage. The use of this quotation, isolated from the context of the interview, was a serious misjudgement and we sincerely apologise to Roy Keane and his family. We also apologise to Paul Kimmage whose work we misrepresented."
What a paper. And still its circulation rises.
One step at a time - It might seem like a small step, but it is actually a huge step for each individual. Just stop buying anything from the Indo, and they will get the message.
The problem with that is that all we will have left to read is the Irish Times or an English paper (unless you can get your hands on the New York Times). The IT is by and large a good paper but it has a strong liberal leftwing bias in the majority of it's content. It is also strongly anti Fianna Fail and pro Labour. The fact that it caters to many of my biases (I am not pro Labour or left wing) makes it no less biased and if I don't read the other side I cannot get a balanced view.
I'd have thought the IT was more liberal than left these days. Certainly, anything penned by the Continuity Wing of the PD press office (aka Modom Kennedy and ) could not be described as left leaning by any stretch of the imagination. Fintan O'Toole and some of the columnists are definitely left-leaning, but these are balanced out by Waters, Breda O'Brien, Mark Stien (sp?) and others.
There is always De Paper for an alternative and less-Dub-centric view of our little isle.
There is always De Paper for an alternative and less-Dub-centric view of our little isle.
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Modom Kennedy pro-PD? Methinks not! Ask McDowell and Harney. Bad blood in floods. She might once have sailed in that ship, but seems to me like she deserted it a long time ago.
No arguments about Stephen Collins. We got a PD newspaper type thing in the door the other day and top right on the front page was an ad for Collins' book....which kind of suggests it's not too critical of the party
I just think the Times is in desperate need of more balance, and I say that as an old time liberal leftie. Waters and O'Brien are just comic book right wingers, painfully predictable, as Myers was, I just wish they'd bring in a couple of right wing heavyweights with a bit of depth, although I can't actually think of any. Maybe there's no such thing
Agree about the Examiner, it's a bit hit and miss, but on the whole I'd rate it as our most balanced national newspaper, it's a shame it still can't throw off its provincial image.
I agree that it is less left wing than it used to be but then again I was called an f-ing socialist by a friend or friend in the pub last night so maybe they are the same and I am more left wing than I used to be!? Fintan O’Toole is a bit more than left leaning. That’s like saying that Thatcher was right leaning. The PD’s are a strange mix of liberal social policy (for the most part) and right of centre economic policy. None of our parties are as right wing as either of the American parties.
Agree on Waters and O’Brien. If they were more balanced their editorials would carry more weight.I just think the Times is in desperate need of more balance, and I say that as an old time liberal leftie. Waters and O'Brien are just comic book right wingers, painfully predictable, as Myers was, I just wish they'd bring in a couple of right wing heavyweights with a bit of depth, although I can't actually think of any. Maybe there's no such thing
I also agree but I think it’s provincial image is still there for a reason.