I presume that "they" means the NCT/Applus+ Inspection Services Ireland? Is that true? I never heard of it before and can't find anything online about it. And there's no mention of the AA in the RSA's NCT manual.
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An NCT certificate is not a substitute for vetting a second hand car
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But dealer did the repair. In the old days Rte would have a reporter at the dealers house or running alongside his car with a microphone.
You tell me. You are the one saying it's a very rare occurrence with no evidence.
This case got the headlines because the incident happened so soon after the NCT and the car very obviously should not have passed.
Something has gone very wrong for that car to pass the NCT.
So it is entirely justified for the NCT to be criticised here.
People should be aware of the limitations of the NCT and the primary fault here lies with the dealership but the NCT should not get a free pass on it either.
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Sorry, they were hypothetical questions.
They do hundreds of thousands of tests a year.
The gave the figures in the Prime Time programme. But I did not note them.
They gave the number of tests.
They gave the number of inhouse verification of tests.
They gave the number which are independently verified by the AA
From memory, they confirm about 99% of the tests.
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I suppose that the spokesman for the NCT on Prime Time could have been spoofing, but it's unlikely.
And as you would say yourself...
The big red flag was that the car had failed twice before so third time lucky for the dealership. NCT should have been more thorough in light of that.
The welding job was atrocious and as Miriam O'Callaghan said "even she could see that it was dangerous". The battery was not tied down and the engineer said it was very dangerous too.
The welding job was atrocious and as Miriam O'Callaghan said "even she could see that it was dangerous". The battery was not tied down and the engineer said it was very dangerous too.
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My 10 year old car passed NCT with a rusted away back subframe. The car when driven on the road was unstable. Only found out when I took it to my garage thinking it was a brake problem.
The NCT test is a whistle stop run through 3 separate inspection bays. It lasts between 20 - 30 minutes. It is impossible for one human tester to check and spot all possible safety faults in this timeframe.
The tester could not read through the list of checks in this amount of time , never mind actually do them.
I have had cars up to 20 years old tested and in fairness to the NCT testers they have spotted difficult enough to see faults on all of them.
If all the NCT manual tests were thoroughly checked the test would need to last for several hours, and would be very costly.
The tester could not read through the list of checks in this amount of time , never mind actually do them.
I have had cars up to 20 years old tested and in fairness to the NCT testers they have spotted difficult enough to see faults on all of them.
If all the NCT manual tests were thoroughly checked the test would need to last for several hours, and would be very costly.
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Agree.
If people want a perfect NCT test, then expect to have
- two testers assigned to each car
- A test lasting a few hours
- A much higher failure rate
- and a much, much, higher fee.
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The NCT is designed to provide assurance at population level, not at individual level.
Many of us are old enough to remember how common rusting bodywork and bald tyres once were - the only control mechanism were Garda checks.
The fleet on Irish roads is radically better since NCT introduction and as a result vehicle quality is rarely the primary cause of RTAs any more.
Many of us are old enough to remember how common rusting bodywork and bald tyres once were - the only control mechanism were Garda checks.
The fleet on Irish roads is radically better since NCT introduction and as a result vehicle quality is rarely the primary cause of RTAs any more.
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The main improvement for me as a cyclist was that I was not cycling behind cars belching fumes at me. It's very rare to see it these days.