Advice on Buildings and Contents insurance renewal

Spooners

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Hi there,
Am with Mulcahy Insurance a broker in Macroom, Cork. My premium/fee has gone up by over €150 this year. Might anyone be able to advise where to look instead? Was told it's the same across the board for house insurance.

Is it worth going to another company to dovetail with car insurance? Car isn't due to renew until July 2025, house insurance is up next week.
Thank you.
 
Well my broker told me same this year but I went to AXA where I had my car insurance and got a much better deal. You really have to shop around yourself.
 
Hi there,
Am with Mulcahy Insurance a broker in Macroom, Cork. My premium/fee has gone up by over €150 this year. Might anyone be able to advise where to look instead? Was told it's the same across the board for house insurance.

Is it worth going to another company to dovetail with car insurance? Car isn't due to renew until July 2025, house insurance is up next week.
Thank you.
Shop around as widely as possible online and maybe via a broker or two. That's the only way to get the best deal.
 
I would have thought that just by using a broker you'd be paying more as some charge a fee on top of quote
A broker is great for when you can't obtain a reasonable quote but otherwise it's normally cheaper to shop around yourself
 
I have no skin in the game but for anyone renewing their house insurance be very careful to calculate your building insurance cover properly and not end up under-insured.

- Building cost in general have increased greatly of late and there are very general cost calculators on the SCSI website
- Don't forget to include for demolition / site clearance / waste disposal costs
- Include for professional fees
- And VAT etc.

All this adds up and if you are unfortunate to have to claim, any underinsurance will be applied as a percentage to the claim regardless of the claim value.
 
I have no skin in the game but for anyone renewing their house insurance be very careful to calculate your building insurance cover properly and not end up under-insured.

- Building cost in general have increased greatly of late and there are very general cost calculators on the SCSI website
- Don't forget to include for demolition / site clearance / waste disposal costs
- Include for professional fees
- And VAT etc.
The SCS provide useful guidelines for the use of their calculator/figures which cover most or all of what you mention.
E.g.:
The figures allow for demolition costs, professional fees incurred in reinstatement, and VAT at 13.5% on building costs and 23% on Professional Fees.
For most people in "regular" properties the SCS calculator/guidelines are more than adequate for helping to determine an appropriate rebuilding cost for insurance purposes. Obviously being overinsured is better than being underinsured so no harm in adding some "padding" to their estimated figures - e.g. 10% or whatever.
 
For most people in "regular" properties the SCS calculator/guidelines are more than adequate for helping to determine an appropriate rebuilding cost for insurance purposes. Obviously being overinsured is better than being underinsured so no harm in adding some "padding" to their estimated figures - e.g. 10% or whatever.
Absolutely add some ''padding'', the SCSI calculator is dated September 2024 and prices are rising all the time. Upping my rebuild cover by an additional €50k is only costing an extra €35 from my next probable insurer, I’m happy to pay it.
 
What would be the case, if you insured re-building costs correctly @ renewal date off 15th Jan 2025, had to make a full claim on 10th Jan 2026 cause your hse was wiped out!, and the price had gone up by then?

I doubt insurance companies would take that into account and just fleece you as best they can?
 
This is all really helpful stuff. Thank you!

@ClubMan - how does one 'add padding'? My house doesn't really feature in the SCSI calculator. It's a 4/5 bedroom terraced house in Cork City centre. This may be a stupid question, but do I simply ask them to 'up' my rebuild cover?
 
This is all really helpful stuff. Thank you!

@ClubMan - how does one 'add padding'?
As I said - arbitrarily add 10% or whatever you think is appropriate. There's no hard and fast rule that I'm aware of.
My house doesn't really feature in the SCSI calculator. It's a 4/5 bedroom terraced house in Cork City centre.
Read the notes about the SCS rebuilding cost estimator. They may outline how to estimate the rebuilding costs of properties with more bedrooms than they normally cater for? If it's not appropriate to use for your property then you may need to figure out some other way to estimate the rebuilding cost for insurance purposes.
This may be a stupid question, but do I simply ask them to 'up' my rebuild cover?
Ask who? If you mean your insurer then they aren't going to be responsible if you don't properly insure for the correct rebuilding cost.
 
Hi @Spooners

A few suggestions

Generally there is not a lot of benefit in aligning house and car insurance unless you have very valuable house/car and go after High Value covers. It's also a lot of hassle to do it as you need to short term or extend one of the policies and insurers loath this. There are some insurers who will give you a discount if you have both your house and car/s with them, even if they are separate policies and different renewal dates.

Most insurers have discounts available for all sorts of things. Credit Union membership, Neighbourhood watch, five point locking on doors and windows, various alarm and monitoring solutions, age, above average occupancy, multiple policies (life as well as general), etc. etc. If you don't ask you won't receive. They also have discretionary/loyalty discount available but you have to drag it out of them.

What is your excess ? If you are one of those people who never claim and only have insurance for catastrophic loss, you could consider increasing your excess which will result in a lower premium.

Have you got contents insurance, and have you reviewed the insured figure - realistically. Most insurers merrily inflate this year in, year out and it's very often far in excess of anything they would pay you in the event of a loss. Worth going around your house and putting a realistic figure together. Reducing the sum insured will reduce your premium (but obviously don't underinsure)

Have you got cover for Unspecified All Risks, Specified All Risks, or other stuff you don't understand or didn't know about ? If you don't know what this is ask your broker - it's their job to explain what these are, why you need them and how much they are costing you.

Insurance is now like utilities (phone, broadband, electricity, gas etc). Many companies actively penalise loyalty and shove up the premium every year just because they can and lots of people accept it silently. Disgusting, but thats the world we live in. You need to get a couple of quotes every year and then use them to go back and beat down your insurer - they will always move.

You are paying a broker a fee to do a lot of the above for you. The broker should be "marketing" your case (taking it to the market each year to see if they can get a better solution/cover/price for you). Chances are that they aren't putting a lot of effort into it. You should make them earn the fee or else dump them and do it yourself.

Regarding the SCSI figures, a couple of points. It's intended as a guide. If you can't get a clean match, go for the closest above. And I would definitely add a figure to this, somewhere between 10% and 25%. Any expensive finishes such as solid wood floors, high end finishes, bespoke high end kitchens, other non standard construction all cost money. The key point is not to underinsure, especially in the current environment where good builders aren't exactly slitting each others throats looking for work.

Lastly, even if you believe that its worth sticking with your broker, there is no harm in picking up the phone to a couple of the large direct insurers and getting quotes from them or going online. (Zurich, Axa, Allianz, Aviva would all be on my list). Also worth considering at a few of the nationwide brokers (AA, Chill, 123 etc) as they will look across their panel of insurers which can include underwriting agencies as well as the main Insurance companies. Even if you have no intention of moving, you will inform yourself, learn a bit and likely save money.
 
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