07 Skoda Octavia having to top-up oil?

fredg said:
if its normal then explain why.
if oil is being used then where is it going??
through the fuel??leakage??
the oil is there to lubricate the moving parts and be replaced
at the service intervals.
this car is 6k off its 1st service,and yet i've topped up twice??
its not as if im doing mad mileage.
the garage of purchace told me basically to read the manual.
v poor.its amazing the difference between sales team
and when you've a problem.
in summary,why is it necessary to top up oil in a brand new car.
i shouldnt have to put my hand on bonnet between services.
people that know alot more than me about cars agree totally with
this point of view.going to Skoda Irl is to try and get some answers as im sure they dont want bad publicity.
F
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The oil is being burnt as the piston scavenger rings cannot scrape 100% of the oil from the bores. It's possible there are tiny leaks from gaskets, sump plug etc. as the car is running in. The level of consumption depends on journey type, cold starts, revs, many factors.

It sounds like your car is on the VAG variable service schedule, in which case the oil service is due when the dash display indicates or at a specified mileage/time limit - I think it's 30000km/2 years but check your manual.

When you say you've topped it up twice I assume this means you've put in 2 litres of oil in 24000km. That is perfectly normal oil consumption, if anything it's on the low side. One of the reasons manufacturers can offer these longer intervals is because the oil is effectively "changed" as it is consumed.

The people who tell you "i shouldnt have to put my hand on bonnet between services" or similar do not know what they are talking about. You should check your fluid levels and tyre pressures every week and not rely on the warning lights. It amazes me the number of people who spend thousands on a new car and then skimp on the basics of maintenance.

You'll get nowhere with any complaint to Skoda on this, I can assure you.

SSE
 
kfk
for your information,
i was told first service at 30k,and as already stated
its inside car on sticker information.
secondly try to answer the question asked, which caveat has tried to do.
you probally work for skoda anyway.
but thanks v much for taking the time and effort to post.
F
 
Some engines burn oil, others don't.

VW Golf 1.8 16v from way back drank it for fun. Modern Mazda RX8's have a great thirst for it too.

It's just one of those things. On a newish car it may even improve over time, but as long as it's within specifications there's nothing to be done about it, only keep it topped up. Make sure the top up oil is exactly as per manufacturers specifications. These vary car to car and even engine to engine within a car range.

I'm no fan of the old VAG 1.9tdi btw. An ancient design.
 
Fred

Remember the first service is due at up to 30000km, not necessarily that figure.

As RS2K says, it's the luck of the draw. I had an ex-fleet 318i that could not be compelled to use any oil under any circumstances in three years and a from-new VW TDI that went through Magnatec like the Queen Mother went through Gordon's.

SSE
 
diesels are know to burn oil hence their nickname "oil burners" having said that we've had 5 different passast's and octavia's in the past 8 yrs only one burnt a lot of oil between services.
 
just rang well known garage in cork and asked the service advisor also qualified mechanic (hes a friend of mine) who tells me that it should be changed at 20,oookm and owner should dip the oil after a couple of thousand imiles to monitor oil levels etc.

my understanding is oil burns right? <-- reason for levels dropping as asked in previous post....
 
will be contacting skoda for an explanation.
to me it seems like something thats certainly not going
to improve with age.
 
shootingstar said:
my understanding is oil burns right? <-- reason for levels dropping as asked in previous post....
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Oil will burn ok if it gets into the combustion chamber and past the piston rings etc.

The thing is it's not supposed to be in that part of the engine. It's supposed to be flowing around the engine, lubricating, protecting, and cooling the mechanical parts.
 
RS2K said:
Oil will burn ok if it gets into the combustion chamber and past the piston rings etc.

The thing is it's not supposed to be in that part of the engine. It's supposed to be flowing around the engine, lubricating, protecting, and cooling the mechanical parts.
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There has to be some kind of burning / evaporation, no? the level wont remain the same if you didnt change the oil for say 30,oookm even if there is no fault / problem with the vehicle?

(i`ve always had a small bit of an interest in the workings of a vehicle)
 
fredg said:
caveat.
the top range of oil is put in every time.
€23 per L.
im taking this further i think.
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It has nothing to do with the brand name, its more the oil viscosity I think he was pointing towards.
It could be something as simple as your driving style.

Changing the oil every 30K will make the problem a lot worse and as the other poster said, I'd hate to be the next owner of the car.

RS2K is correct in his statement that it shouldnt be going in to the cylinder to be burnt, but as it is a relatively new engine I wouldnt be alarmed that the OP has had t top up the oil.
 
sse said:
... and a from-new VW TDI that went through Magnatec like the Queen Mother went through Gordon's...
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Probably because it was the wrong oil to use. Either of these Castrol oils would have been suitable :

a) Castrol GTD 505 01 5W-40 (older oil)

b) Castrol EDGE Turbo Diesel 5W-40 (newer)
 
didnt think the post would create such debate i must be honest.
the thing is i love the car,very nice car to drive.
its not about the money,i dont take short cuts in services,
main dealer always.
im just concerned that somethings up that they want warranty to
run out so that its my problem.
f
 
mathepac said:
Probably because it was the wrong oil to use. Either of these Castrol oils would have been suitable :

a) Castrol GTD 505 01 5W-40 (older oil)

b) Castrol EDGE Turbo Diesel 5W-40 (newer)
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Well it was a while ago, it wasn't on the longlife intervals.

I have to say that, if I now bought a car from new and intended to keep it, I'd go for a standard 10k mile change.

SSE
 
sse said:
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I have to say that, if I now bought a car from new and intended to keep it, I'd go for a standard 10k mile change...
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Agreed. Some of the manufacturers seem to moving back to fixed service intervals - no harm, it was very confusing for owners.
 
Just my opinion, I be well ****ed off, if I had to be topping up in between intervals for a 07 car. I have a Mazda 323 Diesel 96 and have never had to go near it between intervals. I change it at 8 -10 k miles and I have nearly 200k on it.
 
Most of them already offer the choice, you just need to reset the countdown timer.

The only real reason for the longer intervals was for the 3 year fleet cycle, a rep's car doing a limited 60k in 3 years would only need 3 (albeit more expensive) services on the lease cost than 6, then they're flogged off into the trade. Plus many of the bigger fleets actually do their own servicing (or have MASSIVE discounts at the dealers) and a private buyer may actually be better off keeping to the 10k yet using a decent fully synthetic oil rather than the pricey "longlife" oils, which are either wrecked after the two years or have basically been "changed" as they're expensively consumed.

Given a diesel is particularly polluting of its oil, leaving it for two years if you own the car is madness IMHO. You only have to look at the oil 500 miles after it's changed to see this.

Funnily enough in the US they change their oil every 5-6k, my friends in Germany do much the same.

SSE
 
I just collected my 08 Octavia 1.9TDI today from main dealer. As I was leaving the forecourt he told me that the orange oil light may come on and he recommended I top up with 15/40 as necessary.
 
nolo77 said:
I just collected my 08 Octavia 1.9TDI today from main dealer... he recommended I top up with 15/40 as necessary.
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If you get a chance, could you look in the inside cover of you "SkodaAuto Service Schedule" booklet? Stuck to the front inside cover you will see a label with barcodes and columns and rows of three letters and / or numbers, the option-codes.

Towards the bottom of these groups you should see either "QG0" or "QG2", the codes for fixed service intervals. If this is what you see then the oil you use must comply with the specification "VW 505.00" or "VW 505.01", which you will find printed on the tin. If you don't it could lead to problems down the line.
 
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