No - Labour would never risk any offence to the unions
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If that's offending them then I think we're all in agreement, you just have a different definition of "offending" to most people.
No - Labour would never risk any offence to the unions
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No - Labour would never risk any offence to the unions
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Calm down.
I corrected a factual error , the Labour party are not funded by the Trade Unions as stated by Mpsox - agreed ?
No, they are partially funded by the trade unions. It’s not unreasonable to point this out.
I quite agree , but Mpsox never used the word " partially ".
doesn't own rental properties and has an ordinary enough bungalow,.
the reduction in income taxes, the improved infrastructure
I'm also intelligent enough to know that FF have, at the end of the day, made a complete and utter horses rear end of things. but the lack of control and squandermania that existed in Ireland has to be largely attributed to them.
Perhaps most importantly of all, he has realised that a lot of what happened in the past was wrong and is trying to unravel it.
who do I vote for?. Not in a million years would I vote for Labour since they are funded by the public sector trade unions and therefore won't make the tough decisions that need to be made in regards to public sector finances.
Do you think the £1bn Bishopsgate bombing would have helped or hindered the peace process? How many £1bns do you think the UK government could afford?The latter to me is a key thing that has changed the face of Ireland and whilst FF didn't deliver it, I also believe that if it had not been for the efforts of people like Albert Reynolds and Bertie that it would not have happened. I've heard bombs go off, I lived in London for 10 years and I've felt my house shake when the Canary Wharf bomb went off, I've had my desk blown to pieces when the Bishopgate bomb went off and had to turn up at another one of my companys offices in London on the following Monday with my broad Irish accent. I've walked down a street in London when a litter bin bomb went off on the street running parallel to it. The peace process is the most important thing to happen in Ireland in the last 40 years and we should never forget that or be thankful for those who made a big leap of faith to try and make it work.
Mpsox, I really like your post, very well thought out. Showing the contradictions in Irish voting patterns.
Just a few comments, why is the fact that your local TD doesn't have rental property a good thing? Also so what if he lives in a large bungalow or mansion?
You admire the tax cuts, but they were surely no good if the money was squandered and the only reason for them was to ensure FF in power.
Infrastructure? We now have one, one single solitary motorway. There is no reliable drinking water in many parts of the country, a bit of snow the country comes to a standstill. No proper flood defenses. And a Luas that does not meet up. Overcrowded classrooms still in prefabs. What about the planning of the ghost estates.
In relation to unions. I do believe that benchmarking and the bloated and overpaid civil service is because the unions dictated to FF? So I wouldn't be too worried about what Labour may or may not do. They (the unions) have received more than Labour would ever have given them.
Calm down.
I corrected a factual error , the Labour party are not funded by the Trade Unions as stated by Mpsox - agreed ?
Of course historically unions and the labour party have been closely alligned rather like the developers and FF !
I agree , the Labour Party has strong ties with the Unions and FF have strong ties with builders , developers and Banks.It's fair and correct comment that Labour are only partially funded by unions, however I do believe that the thrust of my comment about vested interests still holds
Here is a reality check for you. Foreign investors are what is keeping this Country going so what is best for them is best for Ireland and its citizens. We are running a massive budget deficit. Where do you think the money comes from to pay for everyday health services, education, salaries etc?
The ECB are throwing money at the banks for funding. They are not throwing money at the Irish Government to fund the deficit. It is the bondholders who are paying our bills. As I say, look at Greece if you want to see the consequences of not having International Credibility.
I'd like to draw your attention to these two articles:As for Labour and unions, at least Brian Lenihan is trying to do something about it. Does anyone on here really believe if Labour had the Minister for Finance portfolio that they would reduce public sector pay or would it be more wishy washy "reform" stuff
Over a hundred years ago, Dublin had an electrified tram system, far more extensive than the current luas.As for infrastructure, the Luas is great, ok, it doesn't meet up but 10 years ago it never even existed. As for Motorways, I suppose it depends on your definition of Motorways, personally speaking as someone who lives in Carlow and works in Tallaght, I love my new "Motorway" and am delighted that I will never ever ever have to drive through Castledermot again.
However, this, and a huge chunk of Ireland's rail system has been ripped up by successive governments.At its peak the system was known as technically innovative and was described in 1904 as "one of the most impressive in the world"[1] and other cities from around the world would come to inspect it and its electric operatio
You are confusing the issues.
We would still be able to get money on the international markets without being gentle on the PS, without a high minimum wage, without high welfare payments, and without NAMA.
All you have to do is look at Greece. There is high demand for their bonds.
Again, you are confused. Greece has no problems attracting money.
I'm not sure you fully understand what you are talkng about, and you are mistakenly giving Lenihan praise for things which would have happened anyway, and are refusing to analyse his myriad of poor decisions/indecision.
Do posters think that a FG/Labour government would have taken such (any?) decisive action last year?The EU are now stepping in and telling Greece what steps they need to be taken to solve the problem and laying the groundwork for a bailout. Ireland would be in exactly the same boat if the Government hadn't done what it had done.
Do posters think that a FG/Labour government would have taken such (any?) decisive action last year?
Do posters think that a FG/Labour government would have taken such (any?) decisive action last year?
Do posters think that a FG/Labour government would have taken such (any?) decisive action last year?
Do posters think that a FG/Labour government would have taken such (any?) decisive action last year?