New speed limit for Dublin city centre

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Commuters in Dublin are facing a new 30km/h speed limit in the city centre today.

Dublin City Council says the decision was taken because dangerous and inappropriate speed is contributing to road fatalities.

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Surely there must be another reason beind this decision - not that you can do more then 30 most of the time anyway!
 
It does seem a bit strange. Most accidents which happen as a result of speeding do not occur in the City Centre (where, as you say, it is very difficult to speed anyway) but on motorways, country roads and, to a lesser degree, suburban streets.
 
It might also be there to discouarge poeple from driving in the city centre. I slowed down to 30km today and it was painfully slow.
 
if dangerous and inappropriate speed is the issue, then I guess drivers are ignoring the existing limits. Reducing them won't make a whit of difference. The solution would be enforecement. Then again, since when did common sense ever have a say in the matter
 
Niallers said:
It might also be there to discouarge poeple from driving in the city centre. I slowed down to 30km today and it was painfully slow.
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Well as a pedestrian & cyclist in Dublin city centre, I welcome the new speed limit. I live and work within the confines of the new speed limits. Traffic often travels way too fast in Dublin city centre. For example, along the north quays, often causing cars to run red lights (I actually don't think some of them could stop they're going so fast). And when cycling, the slower the traffic is going the better, as it makes it safer for everyone to manouver.

Just my tuppence worth!

(Worth noting 30kph has been in place on some streets for some time. Heard some guy on radio this morning saying this was just to stop drunks getting hit on O'Connell st when in fact it's been in place there for some time.)
 
I've no problem with the new speed limit but it should go hand and hand with stricter rules regarding jaywalking. O'Connell Street and College Green are particularly bad with pedestrians just wandering out in front of cars and weaving their way through moving lines of traffic. It can be really scary sometimes. As for people who push the buggy out first .........
 
I have driven twice this morning in Dublin City Centre. Traffic was light so it was very difficult to keep to 18mph. Cars were undertaking and overtaking. Pedestrians were darting out between the slower vehicles. We also encountered two cyclists cycling the wrong way up one-way streets! Will it be enforced fairly? I doubt it. A law that cannot be enforced is bad law. As someone who walks in the city quite a lot every day due to my business and who feels quite safe doing so, enforcing jay walking would be more effective in saving pedestrians.

This Councillor Montague is just another minor politician taking advantage of our weak leglislative and government systems that allow minorities to dictate their agendas to the majority whether through the city council or government coalition.
 
carpedeum said:
This Councillor Montague is just another minor politician taking advantage of our weak leglislative and government systems that allow minorities to dictate their agendas to the majority whether through the city council or government coalition.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but Cllr Montague's party is in the largest party on Dublin City Council.
 
I cycle in the city centre the odd time. As 18MPH is so slow I hope I don't get done for breaking the speed limit while on my bicycle...
 
I tried driving at 30kph earlier and it's not easy. I don't often go in to the city but this will discourage me from bothering
 
liaconn said:
I've no problem with the new speed limit but it should go hand and hand with stricter rules regarding jaywalking.
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Stricter rules would imply there are some currently. Jaywalking is not an offence under Irish law.
 
This is simply a licence to print money in these hard times.

The GATSO van was on Essex Quay this morning. There was another load of Gardaí over by the Four Courts.
 
Purple said:
I cycle in the city centre the odd time. As 18MPH is so slow I hope I don't get done for breaking the speed limit while on my bicycle...
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Good point - I suppose theoretically you could be done?

Although I've never heard of anyone being done for speeding on a bicycle before - and it has always been within the realms of possibility to break previous limits I would have thought.
 
carpedeum said:
I have driven twice this morning in Dublin City Centre. Traffic was light so it was very difficult to keep to 18mph. Cars were undertaking and overtaking. Pedestrians were darting out between the slower vehicles. We also encountered two cyclists cycling the wrong way up one-way streets! Will it be enforced fairly? I doubt it. A law that cannot be enforced is bad law. As someone who walks in the city quite a lot every day due to my business and who feels quite safe doing so, enforcing jay walking would be more effective in saving pedestrians.

This Councillor Montague is just another minor politician taking advantage of our weak leglislative and government systems that allow minorities to dictate their agendas to the majority whether through the city council or government coalition.
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I had to do about an hour of driving around Cork city this morning while the new limit was being discussed on radio. It struck me that maybe the cops should pay more attention to some cyclists instead. In that time this morning, I deliberately looked out for cyclists going through red lights and counted five. I presume some cyclists behave the same way in Dublin.

The new law sounds a little daft, to me.
 
Lex Foutish said:
I had to do about an hour of driving around Cork city this morning while the new limit was being discussed on radio. It struck me that maybe the cops should pay more attention to some cyclists instead. In that time this morning, I deliberately looked out for cyclists going through red lights and counted five. I presume some cyclists behave the same way in Dublin.

The new law sounds a little daft, to me.
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Funny, I was driving in Dublin this morning and observed many cyclists ignoring traffic laws, in one case a pedestrian was nearly hit.

Daft law, driven by inappropriate use of data, as described by the AA. Need a lot more scrutiny of cyclist behaviour, but that will never happen until the Greens are buried in the next election.
 
Jaywalking is an American term

This is our "law"

46(2) A pedestrian facing a traffic light lamp which shows a red light shall not proceed beyond that light.
 
RonanC said:
Jaywalking is an American term

This is our "law"

46(2) A pedestrian facing a traffic light lamp which shows a red light shall not proceed beyond that light.
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Presumably, the traffic light that the pedestrian is actually facing is the one on the other side of the road, so he/she can progress upto that light ;)
 
Phoenix Park (08.30) to Ranelagh took 1hr47mins because of bottlenecking up town. Do the oafs that come up with these laws not understand about the time loss to industry, extra pollution and the sheer arrogance of controlling peoples lives more than ever. Cyclists and jaywalkers cause a lot of accidents to themselves by dangerous behaviour. More police time doling out points and collecting fines and crimnality going underdetected because of extra gardai being shifted to stop people driving at 66% of a top sprinters speed. But perhaps the Greens have a cure for unemployment - the unemployed with red flags walking in front of cars. Ciaran Cuffe likes to get news time but why does it always have to be for crass stupidity and badly thought out puerile machinations.
 
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