Media "myths" that get on your nerves (p service discussion is off topic)

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I had to laugh as the Irish media gave another dig at "Fox News" with the old cliche abour fair and balanced. This week however is a perfect example of how the Irish media isn't too far behind.

What are the misrepresentations the media continue to spin out that get on your nerves?

1. AIB Pay rise
First, it's a pretty small sum, though I understand the "principle". But the representation was this was the "Board" of AIB giving two fingers to all us honest to god, ordinary law abiding citizens who bailed them out. As clearly discussed in most reasonable forums, the pay rise was as a result of union action at the LRC. Not one mention of this small inconvinient issue.

2. Not one banker in prison, but in the USA they're in chains...
Isn't it ironic that on the saturday current affairs discussion shows we tend to criticise the USA for its criminal justice system. Sending people with mental age of a 10 year old to their death, dodgy trials, dodgy juries, corrupt police, money buying you a defence. Then when they put away one "banker" swiftly, all of a sudden their justice system is a role model for us.

Forget that those involved in massive corruption like Enron largely still roam free. Forget that the main guy sent down wasn't a "banker" and had nothing to do with the current situation, he was an investor selling a massive pyramid scheme. His biggest crime was he ripped off celebrities and not average citizens.

We also forget that there is an actual fraud investigation going on as we speak, it just takes time. Just because they don't hold daily press breifings to share their current evidence, because of small things like it being an ongoing case, doesn't mean nothing is being done. We're not even sure if most of what has gone on is actually a crime rather than just unethical.

3. Public Sector representation.
Any mention of cuts in the public sector and we always hear from those representing teachers, nurses, gardai, etc. Why? Are these the only public sector workers out there? Who says this is where the cuts will actually be made?
 
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3. Public Sector representation.
Any mention of cuts in the public sector and we always hear from those representing teachers, nurses, gardai, etc.

Maybe because these are the front line public servants to whom most people can relate and it better illustrates, therefore, the effect of any potential cutbacks. I don't think media stories about administrators would exactly capture the public imagination, even thought their ultimate contribution to public services might be just as necessary.
 
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Maybe because these are the front line public servants to whom most people can relate and it better illustrates, therefore, the effect of any potential cutbacks. I don't think media stories about administrators would exactly capture the public imagination, even thought their ultimate contribution to public services might be just as necessary.

Yes but it gives the impression we're facing less front line staff when there's been no direct indication of this. So it just whips up anger for no reason.

Why don't they get people on to discuss the issues surrounding the savings to be made from unused Army property, IDA property and land? How come some of the areas likely to be cut directly like Teagasc, the fisheries board, etc aren't interviewed?
 
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Maybe because these are the front line public servants to whom most people can relate and it better illustrates, therefore, the effect of any potential cutbacks. I don't think media stories about administrators would exactly capture the public imagination, even thought their ultimate contribution to public services might be just as necessary.

That would be marketing. In the case of this subject matter 'Spin'.
Thats the posters point. The reality is the public service is not just frontline staff, however that is not what the media (especially RTE) portray as they are afraid of PS unions boycotting them. No one has the interests of the country at heart. It's all 'me fein' for public servants. I congratulate the 14% of public servants who voted today against the unions 'we dont care if the country goes bankrupt' marches on Nov 6th.
 
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Getting back to the title of the thread.

The Swine Flu myth gets on my nerves. Swine flu is no dangerous than the usual flu's that go around. Reason the media jumped on this is because its place of origin is Mexico and they all had access to this place. Most other flus originate in China & the media get no access, so this stuff doesnt get reported.
 
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Its practically impossible for this thread to not go off topic because if you suggest a "myth" then it gets explored & immediately goes off topic. e.g. if I throw in a few sporting ones:

1) Mayo are chokers and will never win
2) Kilkenny are now a dirty shower who'll stop at nothing to win.
3) This Kerry team can never beat Tyrone
4) Cork footballers cant perform in a final in Croker, or against Kerry in Croker
5) Expectation crushes the Dubs ... annually.
6) Rafa is dead man walking.
7) Wenger cant break out of the mediocre cycle he's trapped in.
8) Chelsea are on the long term slide as they've no youth system and Abramovich is losing interest
9) Ulster football is puke football
10) Berbatov is a lazy good-for-nuthin'

Take your pick of any of the above and off the debate rages .... off topic.
 
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Getting back to the OP one of the myths being spun by the media is classifying nearly everyone as being "the most vunerable in society" or Vincent Browne's favourite line "Unequal societies are responible for..." (insert whatever the daily topic is)
 
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OT posts relating to public service discussion have been excised. Please keep this thread and return to the substantive issue of "media myths".

for example......

1. AIB Pay rise

2. Not one banker in prison, but in the USA they're in chains...

3. Public Sector representation.
....we always hear from teachers, nurses, gardai, etc. Why? Are these the only public sector workers out there?
 
I think there is a problem with this thread as it is constituted.

Each "media myth" is likely to be a highly contentious topic each deserving a thread of its own.

For instance I could mention a massive media myth that of the great MMR hoax (google it) perpetrated by the print and brodcast media in the UK and to a lesser extent here. but it probably deserves and entire thread of its own.

The media's MMR hoax – Bad Science


aj
 
Now that we are back on the topic, here's an example from today where 2 media outlets report the same story with 2 completely angles.
Shame on RTE, as our National broadcaster it has a duty present the story without their own agenda. You have to even scroll way down to find story.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1023/cso.html

or there is a more thorough coverage with 2 pieces at
http://www.breakingnews.ie/

Note the headlines especially. RTE has a lot to answer for.
 
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Getting back to the OP one of the myths being spun by the media is classifying nearly everyone as being "the most vunerable in society"
Got any examples of this? It doesn't ring any bells for me.
 
Now that we are back on the topic, here's an example from today where 2 media outlets report the same story with 2 completely angles.
Shame on RTE, as our National broadcaster it has a duty present the story without their own agenda. You have to even scroll way down to find story.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1023/cso.html

or there is a more thorough coverage with 2 pieces at
http://www.breakingnews.ie/

Note the headlines especially. RTE has a lot to answer for.

How is the RTE story a myth, did Cowen not say those things?

Just had another look through other stuff and I think you are referring to this opinion piece

[broken link removed]

You are quite correct about this second piece it is full of myths bar what the union guy said.
 
I think anything, fact or otherwise, that you disagree with you dismiss as a myth. I will leave it at that.

Go back and look at the different choice of headlines based from Cowans quotes.
 
I'm not with you. What myth is being perpetuated? Two websites have chosen to report the same story from two different angles, but I can't see where the 'myths' come in?
 
I never mentioned the word myth in my point (post10). only in response to another poster. I am simply pointing out RTE took (take) a pro public sector angle and am using another reporting of the same quotes to highlight this in this instance.
 
I never mentioned the word myth in my point (post10). only in response to another poster. I am simply pointing out RTE took (take) a pro public sector angle and am using another reporting of the same quotes to highlight this in this instance.

Hi Ceatharlach,

you are not making sense, what RTE did was report what the leader of the country said and the other link was what the IMSE guy said (which was biased and incorrect).

Are you saying your posts have nothing to do with the thread title?
 
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