public sector worker on phone in to joe duffy show today

[Simeon]

You see the PWC bus most mornings around The Green at 09.10.

 

[zephyro]

Price Waterhouse Cooper in Dublin 1 have this.
I don't work there but I know they moved offices and they have a branded bus doing laps around the area during the day. It's pretty distinctive

Speaking as a former employee this is a service the company offers to transport staff between offices, it isn't anything employees demanded.

No matter where I've worked we've had more than our share of wasters who take each and every entitlement and give nothing back and are the first to abuse to their own needs company policy. I don't think this is strictly a public sector problem.

The only distinction I make between public and private sector working time abuse is that I as a taxpayer bear the cost in the public sector.

 

[Complainer]

Speaking as a former employee this is a service the company offers to transport staff between offices, it isn't anything employees demanded.

So the generous partners of PWC fund this service out of the goodness of their hearts, and not to help them to make even more money?

The only distinction I make between public and private sector working time abuse is that I as a taxpayer bear the cost in the public sector.

And you as a consumer bear the cost of time abuse in the private sector.

 

[Chocks away]

Hey that's me! I thought I was getting away with it too, especially walking around swiftly and with a purpose with a large set of paper under my arm. I was on a sweet thing there.

Title of thread: "public sector worker on phone..." to me a deliberate wind up. No matter where I've worked we've had more than our share of wasters who take each and every entitlement and give nothing back and are the first to abuse to their own needs company policy. I don't think this is strictly a public sector problem.

Now taxi drivers...

This is the rich kaleidoscope of life

 

[zephyro]

So the generous partners of PWC fund this service out of the goodness of their hearts, and not to help them to make even more money?

I don't know why they fund it. I read your question as implying that I am trying to suggest the former.

And you as a consumer bear the cost of time abuse in the private sector.

Certainly not if I can help it, which I generally have the option of doing. To give two concrete examples: the ESB and RTE are companies which evidence suggests to me are run in a very inefficient manner so I use lower cost alternatives.

 

[micmclo]

Speaking as a former employee this is a service the company offers to transport staff between offices, it isn't anything employees demanded.

Oh I never said it was something they demanded
It makes sense if you have hundreds (thousands?) of people across different offices

Cheaper then taxis and it's advertising too in a strange sort of way

 

[Complainer]

Certainly not if I can help it, which I generally have the option of doing. To give two concrete examples: the ESB and RTE are companies which evidence suggests to me are run in a very inefficient manner so I use lower cost alternatives.

You make the mistake of assuming that cost has something to do with pricing. Pricing is set by whatever the market can bear, not what the service costs.

 

[Purple]

Pricing is set by whatever the market can bear, not what the service costs.

Well said, and in the case of monopolies supplying essential services the market will bear any price as there is no alternative.
I couldn't have made a better case to support the proposition that there is need for sweeping reform in the public sector and that the private sector, by its very nature, will be more efficient.

Well done.

 

[S.L.F]

Well said, and in the case of monopolies supplying essential services the market will bear any price as there is no alternative.
I couldn't have made a better case to support the proposition that there is need for sweeping reform in the public sector and that the private sector, by its very nature, will be more efficient.

Well done.

Well where the problem lies is how do you price what a librarian does or a fire man or a policeman or a nurse or a teacher.

These are all public servants.

I have watched the series Yes Minister (satire at it's best) and fully understand that to have such sweeping reform would cost many billions.

 

[Purple]

Well where the problem lies is how do you price what a librarian does or a fire man or a policeman or a nurse or a teacher.

These are all public servants.

I agree, so benchmarking them against the private sector was nonsense.
So what should they get paid? Pay levels should be set at a level that attracts enough suitable people to the jobs (ignoring short term blips in either direction). They should not be set by militant political fundamentalists seeking to gain massive pay increases that the state cannot afford by hold the country to ransom (which is what we’ve had for a generation).

 

[thedaras]

I agree, so benchmarking them against the private sector was nonsense.
So what should they get paid? Pay levels should be set at a level that attracts enough suitable people to the jobs (ignoring short term blips in either direction). They should not be set by militant political fundamentalists seeking to gain massive pay increases that the state cannot afford by hold the country to ransom (which is what we’ve had for a generation).

Does benchmarking only work one way?? UP ?

 

[Purple]

Does benchmarking only work one way?? UP ?

Yes. There is a one-way restrictor called the "ICTU Valve" invented by the gents at "Bearded Brethren Enterprises" in place which only allows money to flow into the pot, not out. The valve can also only be opened more, never restricted.

 

[thedaras]

Yes. There is a one-way restrictor called the "ICTU Valve" invented by the gents at "Bearded Brethren Enterprises" in place which only allows money to flow into the pot, not out. The valve can also only be opened more, never restricted.

Bit like having kids then.

 

[Purple]

Bit like having kids then.

Yes, kids that run the country

 

[thedaras]

Yes, kids that run the country

Ahh now ,be fair..stop running down the kids

 

[Caveat]

I think this is worth repeating:

You make the mistake of assuming that cost has something to do with pricing. Pricing is set by whatever the market can bear, not what the service costs.

Well said, and in the case of monopolies supplying essential services the market will bear any price as there is no alternative.
I couldn't have made a better case to support the proposition that there is need for sweeping reform in the public sector and that the private sector, by its very nature, will be more efficient.

Well done.