Ireland in 2020
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We'll have finally copped on to the folly of letting politicians run the country, and will instead be letting a machine govern us. We will still need human intervention for decisions such as legalising abortion etc. This will be done via the internet.
Our goal should be a utopia, not just fire-fighting the present problems. With machine government, we will be able to achieve this.
Before all this happens, there will be huge breakdown in society (please refer to the how to prepare thread for more info on how to deal with this phase)
( Number four; we'll still have houses, but that's about it - lol!
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Our goal should be a utopia, not just fire-fighting the present problems. With machine government, we will be able to achieve this.
Before all this happens, there will be huge breakdown in society (please refer to the how to prepare thread for more info on how to deal with this phase)
( Number four; we'll still have houses, but that's about it - lol!
)1) Financial Stability
We are the biggest producers of oil and gas in the world after some further finds off the west coast. Financial stability is not as much as an issue for us. Neither is it for our former EU colleagues in the Caliphate of Europe - since the introduction of sharia law in most of Europe (except Ireland) in 2018 there hasnt been much call for financal services.
2) Employment
In general terms, Irish citizens have it easy - they all work in very high paid public sector jobs with 3 day weeks, retirement at 55 and huge pensions. All the real work is done by the 20 million EU immigrants who have arrived over the past 10 years. After the financial collapses of 2009, most of Europe broke down returning to the dark ages. After Ireland discovered oil/gas, and pulled itself out of the dark ages by exporting these commodities to the US citizens who still havent weaned themselves of oil, we became the destination of choice for former EU workers.
3) Public Sector
All 6 million Irish citizens work in the public sector. There are approaching 100,000 quangos now and the Dail has 500 TDs and 400 junior ministries. We also have 1000 local authorities.
4) Housing
The rich Irish all live in big one-off houses which arent connected to the sewage or water systems. No need for polluting septic tanks, the immigrant workers from the EU clean out the gold plated chamber pots.
5) Infrastructure
We decided to build 100,000 miles of 10 lane motorway with our new found wealth and then decided we'd all prefer to travel by helicopter.
We are the biggest producers of oil and gas in the world after some further finds off the west coast. Financial stability is not as much as an issue for us. Neither is it for our former EU colleagues in the Caliphate of Europe - since the introduction of sharia law in most of Europe (except Ireland) in 2018 there hasnt been much call for financal services.
2) Employment
In general terms, Irish citizens have it easy - they all work in very high paid public sector jobs with 3 day weeks, retirement at 55 and huge pensions. All the real work is done by the 20 million EU immigrants who have arrived over the past 10 years. After the financial collapses of 2009, most of Europe broke down returning to the dark ages. After Ireland discovered oil/gas, and pulled itself out of the dark ages by exporting these commodities to the US citizens who still havent weaned themselves of oil, we became the destination of choice for former EU workers.
3) Public Sector
All 6 million Irish citizens work in the public sector. There are approaching 100,000 quangos now and the Dail has 500 TDs and 400 junior ministries. We also have 1000 local authorities.
4) Housing
The rich Irish all live in big one-off houses which arent connected to the sewage or water systems. No need for polluting septic tanks, the immigrant workers from the EU clean out the gold plated chamber pots.
5) Infrastructure
We decided to build 100,000 miles of 10 lane motorway with our new found wealth and then decided we'd all prefer to travel by helicopter.
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1) Financial Stability - The ECB has re-appointed John Hurley as governor of the central bank.
2) Employment - Dell are threatening to reduce workforce in Limerick.
3) Public Sector - both civil servants have accepted early retirement.
4) Housing - everyone now painting houses white to reflect sunlight and reduce global warming ( a la Lanzarote model )
5) Infrastructure - rickshaw only lanes in major urban areas.
2) Employment - Dell are threatening to reduce workforce in Limerick.
3) Public Sector - both civil servants have accepted early retirement.
4) Housing - everyone now painting houses white to reflect sunlight and reduce global warming ( a la Lanzarote model )
5) Infrastructure - rickshaw only lanes in major urban areas.
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I will not, never !!
Humans by their very nature, seldom learn from mistakes of the past. Yes, they may change how they do something, but in the end they always go back to the same things - War, strike, blame somebody else.
Right now Ireland is generally full of panic stricken people irrationally trying to solve the Ills of the country by simply pointing fingers.
Accountability is vital, but not the most important matter to attend to today. What I see is few people being accountable for their own financial decisions, I dont see that changing by 2020!
In the future, there will be corruption, the same mistakes will be made and similar clowns will be in positions of power whether through wealth or status in politics.
I think society can be summed up nicely with ideas such as -
- When you have a bad drinking culture, limit access to drink, close pubs earlier so people drink more in less time. The alternative is to try and educate people from a young age to respect the drug.
-Voting for parties based on their Populist ideals. Look at Labour who have offered nothing in the way of solutions, only problems to ideas (few of them posters on AAM).
-Acting as though you have a right to something at the expense of others. Taximen, civil Servants, waterford workers (note I wasnt ps bashing, making a point) feel that society owes them something, but the rest of society should bear the brunt of the recession.
In 2020, if theres a celtic tiger, very few will be prudent, very few will care what happened today and the same problem will happen when that bubble bursts. Unless we change our fickle nature to vote on who can give us the most, the quickest in elections, we will always be a stonethrow away from ending up in a similar mess. The reason long term planning isnt really practised (new roads, networks, public savings) etc, is because we (as a nation) do not demand it. To expect the government to be prudent when popular votes go to the most "popular" (as opposed to long term prudent) ideas is at best contradictory.
That said, realistically, By 2020 we will still feel the sting of todays Ills and will be less inclined to be risky with our wealth. But believe me eventually what I said above will happen again, and again, until eventually we all evolve into monkeys, at which case bankers will own the rights to bananas, builders will own the land it grows on and politicians will decide on who to prioritise on receiving the bananas. . . At that stage we will all be screwed . . .
Right now Ireland is generally full of panic stricken people irrationally trying to solve the Ills of the country by simply pointing fingers.
Accountability is vital, but not the most important matter to attend to today. What I see is few people being accountable for their own financial decisions, I dont see that changing by 2020!
In the future, there will be corruption, the same mistakes will be made and similar clowns will be in positions of power whether through wealth or status in politics.
I think society can be summed up nicely with ideas such as -
- When you have a bad drinking culture, limit access to drink, close pubs earlier so people drink more in less time. The alternative is to try and educate people from a young age to respect the drug.
-Voting for parties based on their Populist ideals. Look at Labour who have offered nothing in the way of solutions, only problems to ideas (few of them posters on AAM).
-Acting as though you have a right to something at the expense of others. Taximen, civil Servants, waterford workers (note I wasnt ps bashing, making a point) feel that society owes them something, but the rest of society should bear the brunt of the recession.
In 2020, if theres a celtic tiger, very few will be prudent, very few will care what happened today and the same problem will happen when that bubble bursts. Unless we change our fickle nature to vote on who can give us the most, the quickest in elections, we will always be a stonethrow away from ending up in a similar mess. The reason long term planning isnt really practised (new roads, networks, public savings) etc, is because we (as a nation) do not demand it. To expect the government to be prudent when popular votes go to the most "popular" (as opposed to long term prudent) ideas is at best contradictory.
That said, realistically, By 2020 we will still feel the sting of todays Ills and will be less inclined to be risky with our wealth. But believe me eventually what I said above will happen again, and again, until eventually we all evolve into monkeys, at which case bankers will own the rights to bananas, builders will own the land it grows on and politicians will decide on who to prioritise on receiving the bananas. . . At that stage we will all be screwed . . .
1) We have only 2 to 3 years left of recession. The rest of Europe's ended 10 years ago. Fianna Fail led government are confident everything is under control having introduced it's 132nd mini-budget in 11 years.
2) 50% unemployment, the remainder employed in growth companies such as Lidl, Aldi, McDonalds, Domino's Pizza.
3) Public sector salaries still the same as 2009 levels. However after a series of levies (the most devastating being the recent 'beard levy' for union members), public sector workers receive no take home pay and are reduced to bartering for goods.
2) 50% unemployment, the remainder employed in growth companies such as Lidl, Aldi, McDonalds, Domino's Pizza.
3) Public sector salaries still the same as 2009 levels. However after a series of levies (the most devastating being the recent 'beard levy' for union members), public sector workers receive no take home pay and are reduced to bartering for goods.
By 2020 there is going to be a shortage of oil and what is available is going to be very expensive. I can imagine a lot of people freezing in their houses as they can't get/afford oil. A car will be a luxury only the rich can afford. Bicycles will become much more popular.
Food will be relatively more expensive as it will be very expensive to import it, most of the food we eat will have to be homegrown. Poverty will be much worse and as a result so will crime.
I could go on....
Food will be relatively more expensive as it will be very expensive to import it, most of the food we eat will have to be homegrown. Poverty will be much worse and as a result so will crime.
I could go on....
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Clubman for Taoiseach! ............ If they can find him that is!
you won't get my vote for that anyway
Financial Stability: investment in R & D in early 2010's beginning to pay dividends. The IFSC is the world centre for trading in environmental credits. Investment in nuclear power insulates us from recession. Replicating the Canadian banking model restabilises the sector.
Employment: pharma and neuro science sectors booming after investment in education and R & D by the Government of Taoiseach Bruton. Tourism booms as a result of our environmental policies attracting foreigners to our clean Islam culture.
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I'll prob still be working 2 jobs
Touché, Ron! The big spoon is still going strong, God bless it!
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