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dockingtrade

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People talk of how out of touch Polticians are, top civil servants, bankers etc. Talk about out of touch, these people need to targeted and removed as much as the bankers. I said it before about how irresposible union leaders are in not expressing to their members that pay cuts need to happen. There's even a section for "competitiveness"!!!. These people need to be removed!!!
Also it needs to be brought about union reps on boards of companies that have acted like FAS etc. And how these left wing socialist stalwarts are on 6 figure salaries (plus directors fees), walk the walk and all that.
They cant be let spin that last weeks march was about the pension levy. Im as "mad as hell" about the govt but in no way on the side of the unions. The unions seem to be jumping on any public descent for the govt as solidarity for them.
Someone should take a poll on how the unions are performing.

And another thing about fighting the hard fight...its easy strike against the govt those jobs will still be there. I ask them union people what are they doing to save the jobs of their members in the private sector, wheres your outrage what are ye doing, now thats tough sort that one!!!!
 
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Unions must now show responsible leadership.
They must let their members know how unrealistic their expectations are.
What are these guys salarys?
what kind of expenses are they getting?
what perks do they have?
 
another thing, remove tax relief on union subs, they are costing us enough already!

thedara yes these questions need to be answered and they need to be investigated as they represent the public and are paid by the public.
 
thedaras said:
What are these guys salarys?
what kind of expenses are they getting?
what perks do they have?
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I'll start;

David Begg €136,000 (ICTU)
€36’000 (Aer Lingus)
€? (Central Bank)
€? (ESRI)

Peter McLoone €155,300 (IMPACT)

Jack O’Connor €120,671 (SIPTU)

Feel free to add to the list.
 
dockingtrade said:
another thing, remove tax relief on union subs, they are costing us enough already!

thedara yes these questions need to be answered and they need to be investigated as they represent the public and are paid by the public.
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Don't the unions help find the Labour Party? If so then they are beneficiaries of the tax breaks that they crow so much about.
 
Purple said:
Don't the unions help find the Labour Party? If so then they are beneficiaries of the tax breaks that they crow so much about.
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Purple, are you developing a Site Dublin accent - as in the unions finding the Labour Party;)
 
Chocks away said:
Purple, are you developing a Site Dublin accent - as in the unions finding the Labour Party;)
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More a South Dublin learning difficulty as a child (dyspraxia as it is now called, “Stupid” as it was called when I was in school) which means that I can’t spell. ;)
 
On a related topic, Leo Varadkar had a go at one of the Union people on Newstalk this morning. He stated that Unions need to accept their part in the public sector funding crisis, as they pushed for above inflation rises through benchmarking, they pushed for huge increases in public sector spending, yet did not help ensure effective use of that money. He used the example of the health service.

Unions are one of he corners of the square, - government; bankers; builders and unions, that all helped contribute to the crisis.

Finally one of our representatives standing up to them.

As for the 'fairness'; I have seen press stating that 'fairness' would be broadening the tax net which would include those not currently paying taxes. What is the union definition of fairness? I suspect it is increased taxes on the upper scales and not the fairness that most economists would discuss in spreading the tax burden downwards as well as across. My worry is that the unions have too strong a voice and our leaders are too weak to face them down.
 
Westbound said:
On a related topic, Leo Varadkar had a go at one of the Union people on Newstalk this morning. He stated that Unions need to accept their part in the public sector funding crisis, as they pushed for above inflation rises through benchmarking, they pushed for huge increases in public sector spending, yet did not help ensure effective use of that money. He used the example of the health service.

Unions are one of he corners of the square, - government; bankers; builders and unions, that all helped contribute to the crisis.

Finally one of our representatives standing up to them.

As for the 'fairness'; I have seen press stating that 'fairness' would be broadening the tax net which would include those not currently paying taxes. What is the union definition of fairness? I suspect it is increased taxes on the upper scales and not the fairness that most economists would discuss in spreading the tax burden downwards as well as across. My worry is that the unions have too strong a voice and our leaders are too weak to face them down.
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Couldnt agree with you more Westbound..
Thanks for the information purple...
 
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quoteOn a related topic, Leo Varadkar had a go at one of the Union people on Newstalk this morning. He stated that Unions need to accept their part in the public sector funding crisis, as they pushed for above inflation rises through benchmarking, they pushed for huge increases in public sector spending, yet did not help ensure effective use of that money. He used the example of the health service. end quote westbound.
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I heard this interview and felt there is some hope for the country...
 
The unions in general and David Begg in particular are filling the void that the government is leaving with its utter lack of leadership. From listening to both David Begg and Mary Coughlan over recent days I would have more confidence in him than her to get the country out of this mess (and I have very little confidence in him!).
 
Leo Varadkar had a go at one of the Union people on Newstalk this morning. He stated that Unions need to accept their part in the public sector funding crisis, as they pushed for above inflation rises through benchmarking, they pushed for huge increases in public sector spending, yet did not help ensure effective use of that money. He used the example of the health service. end quote westbound.
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Was Mr. Varadkar not in reciept of benchmarking?

Did he return this to the state as he seems to find such payments objectionable?
 
cork said:
Was Mr. Varadkar not in reciept of benchmarking?

Did he return this to the state as he seems to find such payments objectionable?
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Benchmarking, and was receiving pay as a trainee GP for a fair while on top of his TD salary. I can't find a link for this, but there was a bit of coverage at the time. I think the HSE may have cut off the GP salary since it wasn't his full-time job.

But he did follow his dear leader's example and ask for a 5% pay cut late last year, so that's all right then.
 
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