A friend of mine is a FF councillor. He's not at all looking forward to the Local Elections. He told me that they take huge heat from constituents when The Government make national decisions that annoy ordinary working people off.
World Economies are in recession.
People bought houses at inflated prices.
Banks Lent & lent money.
The public sector enjoyed bench marking without improving levels of service & yet people blame government.
World Economies are in recession.
People bought houses at inflated prices.
Banks Lent & lent money.
The public sector enjoyed bench marking without improving levels of service & yet people blame government.
World Economies are in recession.
People bought houses at inflated prices.
Banks Lent & lent money.
The public sector enjoyed bench marking without improving levels of service & yet people blame government.
Our economy should not be in the most desperate state that its in,it would not have been this bad if it had been managed properly.,. How many economys are in the state we are in..
I didnt buy a house
I didnt borrow nor lend
The government hadnt the balls to say no to the public sector.
Who then would you like to blame?
Are you saying that the blame for the total mismanagement of our economy is down to those who bought a house and are now are facing losing their jobs?
I dont know who you call the people who mismanaged our county into the desperate state that its in today,but I call them the government.
Who puts the government in power? This isnt about blaming anybody, its about taking responsibility for the decisions we made as individuals and collectively as a nation.
I would say that we all have to take an element of blame in this debacle. At what stage are people responsible for making their own financial decisions?
Perhaps if I lose my job I will feel differantly, more angry. That doesnt mean I will be thinking straight or coming up with the best way of sorting out the country. If anything it makes us more irrational in trying to understand the problem. All I will want is for heads to role whether they be the bankers or the government . . .
When we were all laughing at Bush destroying the U.S. we werent worried about what our guys were doing. Everybody was looking out for their own interests in the "bertie" years, that was what it was all about. Now everybody knows what we should of been doing and what our government should of been doing!!!
I would imagine its the people who voted for them? I was not one of them.
I did and do take responsibility for my financial decisions and decisions I made personaly are not what is causing this meltdown.
some of us were worried,by the wa so speak for yourself!!
To say that all people want is for heads to roll is bordering on laughable,do you not think that that there is a reason why some of us want government/bankers to suffer the consequences of their actions(like you suggested we all should) but it would seem that asking the government to do this is ,to you anyway,is just looking for heads to roll.
If they don't stay the distance and pull out now, they will still get crucified by the electorate, and will go the way of the PDs.I agree, with FF as low as 22%, all parties, including the Greens would increase their TDs if an election was called now. The Greens would also benefit from pulling the plug on such an unpopular Government and probably double their TDs. I dont understand what they are doing. If they stay the distance with FF, they will go the way of the PDs.
You left out the bit about "Inflated by the conspiracy between the banks, the builders and the bowsies (FF)".People bought houses at inflated prices.
Go read the reports of the Performance Verification Groups. All increases were signed off and approved by these independent groups which included many bastions of private industry (Gillian Bowler, Vivienne Jupp etc).The public sector enjoyed bench marking without improving levels of service
I'd nearly break the habit of a lifetime and vote for him myself, just for having the cojones to go canvassing this week!A Fianna fail guy has been canvasing in my area,what a time to call!! ,nice guy,dont envy his job at the moment.
Sorry mate, you are taking what you want out of my post and skewering it.......
NorthDrum, have you developed mind reading capabilites - you say that 'a majority of people arent interested in getting the economy back on track. They are only interested in sackings and finger pointing'.
I can't claim such special powers - but I can speak for myself and some close friends and family.We worked hard througout the boom, long hours - week in, week out - for years. I'm not complaining, we have done ok. I am not just 'interested' in getting the economy back on track - I continue to work hard to keep myself and my family solvent, and in my own small way - the economy.
Your analogy:
What do you do if your friend is dieing from a shotgun wound and he needs some of your blood? Do you figure out who shot him while he is dieing on the surgeons bed or donate some blood and route out the criminal after he has gotten some element of health . .
Let me be clear - in such a scenario, I would do everything I could to remove the gun and the gunman first - to stop them doing any further damage; only then would I attend to the wounded.
Cowen et al are the ones who pulled the trigger - we should do everything we can to remove them from office; we can then begin to rebuild.
There is a simple truism in life - 'actions must have consequences' . FF have, through years of incompetence and mismanagement, pushed this country to the brink; they have sowed the wind, and must now reap the whirlwind. I for one absolutely refuse to quitely shoulder the blame for something I did not do; or pay the price for someone elses wrong-doings.....I'm no fool....
Again you are changing the arguement and skewering what I was saying.
I said your friend is on the bed dieing. Taking the gun off the gunman when hes already losing blood doesnt save his life, it might make you feel better about yourself though. In essence your talking about closing the door when the horse has already bolted.
Again you are pointing the finger elsewhere. I dont feel that I am directly responsible for what the government have done but I am ready to take collective responsibility for how to fix it.
Seriously. If you are going to simply try and be smart with pointless posts I will not continue this debate. Do you see many people on Tv, radio in the newspapers doing anything othe then complain about the government and the banks? Now FF figures are down to an all time low and Cowan as taoiseach has record low figures. I would classify that as cold facts that a majority of people believe that the governments head should role.