Payment Protection

ally34

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Just took out a personal loan and went for the payment protection option, now I have 30 days to decide if I want to continue with this I have decided not to...first reypament was paid last week which included the payment protection charge, what refund will I get from the bank
 
Hi
When I did the same, I got all of the payment protection refunded by cheque (when I then lodged into the loan account). Presumably, you will get it all, minus the initial payment.
Good decision, those products are very expensive.
Nicola
 
Thanks, was your refund the full amount of payment protection or just what you had paid in your repayments....for eg. payment protection cover say 1000 euro paid 11.00 what refund do you get back from bank
 
Hi
You should get €1000(?-€11) back. (at least that's how my refund was structured)
The documents you got for your loan will state what sum the payment protection is for the term of the loan, and this is what you get back.
Do it as soon as you can though, before the 30 days are up!!
Nicola
 
Thanks a million, I have advised the bank in writing today and I think I have to sign a cancellation form within the day or so
 
No problem.
I was shocked when I saw how much that insurance was when I read the loan documents!
Couldn't cancel it quickly enough!
Nicola
 
What if you become seriously ill and can no longer work? (god forbid)..Who will pay your loan?.

I know payment protection can be expensive but no one knows whats around the corner and you could need it. You could be kicking yourself in a years time!
 
What if you become seriously ill and can no longer work? (god forbid)..Who will pay your loan?.
In that case something like permanent health insurance or income protection insurance might be a better idea. Many (most?) loan specific repayment protection plans are really bad value for money.
 
In that case something like permanent health insurance or income protection insurance might be a better idea. Many (most?) loan specific repayment protection plans are really bad value for money.

Yeah I agree with you there in a way. Although I don't have income protection myself, alot of people say some of the policies can be bad value aswell.
I just think anyone who takes out a significant loan without payment protection or some type of income protection is mad in my opinion.
 
alot of people say some of the policies can be bad value aswell.
Well, as with any product or service you have to shop around for the best value for money which suits your specific needs. That goes without saying. But now I have said it too.
I just think anyone who takes out a significant loan without payment protection or some type of income protection is mad in my opinion.
We don't know that the original poster's loan is "significant". It's a gross generalisation to say that anybody who does not take out repayment protection in such circumstances is "mad".
 
Well, as with any product or service you have to shop around for the best value for money which suits your specific needs. That goes without saying. But now I have said it too.

We don't know that the original poster's loan is "significant". It's a gross generalisation to say that anybody who does not take out repayment protection in such circumstances is "mad".

I agree I've has a number of small loans out over the years and have always refused the payment protections. It usually reduced the loan by 2 or 3 months.

I have a good sick pay scheme and I did take this in account.
 
I to am cancelling my payment protection with my local Bank, do you get the whole premium back or just what you have already paid, I have paid 3 payment protection charges
 
We don't know that the original poster's loan is "significant". It's a gross generalisation to say that anybody who does not take out repayment protection in such circumstances is "mad".

Where did I mention the OP in relation to that point? No, I said "anyone" who doesn't have payment protection or some type of income protection to protect you from being left with a significant amount of money to pay with no means to do so when things go wrong, is mad. And I stand by that point/opinion.
I work in a certain area where i see the effects of people not covering themselves when it comes to loans so I know what I am talking about. Taking out a significant loan of say €10,0000 for arguments sake and not having something to fall back on if things go wrong, especially in the current climate, is just not a smart move in my opinion.
 
Where did I mention the OP in relation to that point?
Well this thread is about the original poster's issue. If you want to discuss loan repayment protection in the abstract then perhaps you should start a new thread.
I said "anyone" who doesn't have payment protection or some type of income protection to protect you from being left with a significant amount of money to pay with no means to do so when things go wrong, is mad.
I disagree. Not all risks need to be insured for. It's a question of assessing the risk and then deciding whether or not insurance is merited. If the risk of not being able to meet the repayments on a loan is low then it makes no sense to insure for it. If the implications of not being able to meet the repayments on a loan are not serious then likewise.
 
Hi
You should get €1000(?-€11) back. (at least that's how my refund was structured)
The documents you got for your loan will state what sum the payment protection is for the term of the loan, and this is what you get back.
Do it as soon as you can though, before the 30 days are up!!
Nicola


Was just in the bank and the proceedure now is the loan protection is taken off your term loan and then the payments are reduced, so therefore no full refund payment is made to me
 
Bank just came back to me information told at counter today was incorrect NicolaM you are correct a cheque will be sent out to my for the full payment protection premium - Thanks to all
 
I disagree. Not all risks need to be insured for. It's a question of assessing the risk and then deciding whether or not insurance is merited. If the risk of not being able to meet the repayments on a loan is low then it makes no sense to insure for it. If the implications of not being able to meet the repayments on a loan are not serious then likewise.

Fair enough. Have a look at "Bank harrassing debtor" thread. Prime example for you there. Oh but whats the chances of you getting sick or having a serious accident - "low" I suppose.
 
Fair enough. Have a look at "Bank harrassing debtor" thread.
In which the person in question has allegedly obtained a nil installment judgement so the whole palaver about debt collectors etc. is moot based on the information posted?
Oh but whats the chances of you getting sick or having a serious accident - "low" I suppose.
For many people the risk of these eventualities may well be low - yes. But it really depends on the individual. And the size of the loan. And so on. Basically it all depends on the individual's circumstances and to assert that insurance for some risk is always advisable without reference to the specific individual's specific circumstances is silly.
 
In which the person in question has allegedly obtained a nil installment judgement so the whole palaver about debt collectors etc. is moot based on the information posted?
For many people the risk of these eventualities may well be low - yes. But it really depends on the individual. And the size of the loan. And so on. Basically it all depends on the individual's circumstances and to assert that insurance for some risk is always advisable without reference to the specific individual's specific circumstances is silly.

The nil installment order has nothing to do with the debt collectors chasing him. They are chasing him because he defaulted on a loan whereby if he got sick he had no means to pay it as he obviously had no protection in place to allow for him becoming seriously ill.

And no, "Specific circumstances" have nothing to do with someone tripping over a shoe and falling down the stairs and doing serious irrepairable damage to themselves and never being able to work again - thats how simple it is (and yes I know someone who that very thing happened to them). They're called accidents. Things you can't plan for or predict. Thats the very nature of insurance - you are betting against something that may never happen. Thats a given, but I'd rather have it and never need then not have it and find I am in situation where I am desperately need payment protection and I don't have it.

That's the last I'll say on the matter!
 
"Specific circumstances" have nothing to do with you tripping over a shoe and falling down the stairs and doing serious irrepairable damage to themselves
Of course they do! Some people have specific hereditary or lifestyle health risks that others don't have. Some people are naturally clumsy or accident prone while others are not. And so on... Not all risks are worth insuring for all individuals.
Things you can't plan for or predict.
I never said anything about predicting the future. But by asserting that you cannot plan for these you have presumably just consigned the whole actuarial profession to the dustbin?
Thats the very nature of insurance - you are betting against something that may never happen. Thats a given, but I'd rather have it and never need then not have it and find I am in situation where I badly need it and I don't have it.
Thats the last I'll say on it.
My approach to insurance involves much less betting and a lot more analysis, assessment and planning based on the relevant circumstances and risks etc.
 
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