Reducing drink drive limit to 50mg from 80mg

whether drinking or driving or both or neither, have a safe St PAtrick's weekend everyone & come back on Tuesday refreshed

....now who took the cork off my lunch... 1/2 hour & finished work yippee.
 
You have to look at the idiots that comprise Kerry Council Council. They do not support the lowering of the limit. But the council is made up with publicans so what do you expect. I would expect a county council to have some cop on in such matters.
 
bond-007 said:
You have to look at the idiots that comprise Kerry Council Council. They do not support the lowering of the limit. But the council is made up with publicans so what do you expect. I would expect a county council to have some cop on in such matters.
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I don't support the lowering of the limit either on the basis that I believe that people having 10 pints will still have 10 pints. I don't believe that lowering the limit from approx 1.5 pints to 1 pint will have any effect at all on road safety. And I don't think I'm an idiot!
 
bond-007 said:
You have to look at the idiots that comprise Kerry Council Council. They do not support the lowering of the limit. But the council is made up with publicans so what do you expect. I would expect a county council to have some cop on in such matters.
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Surely, if the people elected to power are idiots, then the people who voted them in must also be in the same mould. I haven't met too many Kerry idiots in my travels. :D
 
bond-007 said:
You have to look at the idiots that comprise Kerry Council Council. They do not support the lowering of the limit. But the council is made up with publicans so what do you expect. I would expect a county council to have some cop on in such matters.
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Its easy to label as idiots those with whom you disagree on a particular issue - a lot easier than discussing the issue on its merits. I agree with Kerry Council Council on this and like the previous poster, I don't think I am an idiot.
 
Lower the limit to zero and be done with it.

I don't agree with pandering to habitual criminals (make no bones about it for that is what they are) in rural areas who flaunt the law by continuing to drive and drive. The are not detected and prosecuted due to the lack of Garda resources. I have nothing but comptempt for those that break the law by continuing to drink and drive.

I would support more money for the Gardaí to sit out side every pub in the land and catch those drinking and driving.
 
bond-007 said:
I would support more money for the Gardaí to sit out side every pub in the land and catch those drinking and driving.
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I always wondered why checkpoints are set up half a mile away from the local pub when the carpark of it is completely full, one person passes it and then phones the pub to tell everyone not to turn right leaving the carpark so all the drivers who have had a drink know not to pass it - surely itd make more sense to set it up outside the carpark?
 
truthseeker said:
I always wondered why checkpoints are set up half a mile away from the local pub when the carpark of it is completely full, one person passes it and then phones the pub to tell everyone not to turn right leaving the carpark so all the drivers who have had a drink know not to pass it - surely itd make more sense to set it up outside the carpark?
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What do you think would happen if they're at the carpark?
 
truthseeker said:
I always wondered why checkpoints are set up half a mile away from the local pub when the carpark of it is completely full, one person passes it and then phones the pub to tell everyone not to turn right leaving the carpark so all the drivers who have had a drink know not to pass it - surely itd make more sense to set it up outside the carpark?
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Don't think you'd find anybody stupid enough to see a check point in a car park and then proceed to car and drive through it.
my concern is the morning after and having no buffer if there is drink still in your system but your very much sober.
 
my concern is the morning after and having no buffer if there is drink still in your system but your very much sober.
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They should use caution and choose not to drive.
 
5 to 10mg (an effective zero limit) to allow for the use of mouthwashes etc that may have negligible alcohol content.
 
bond-007 said:
I would support more money for the Gardaí to sit out side every pub in the land and catch those drinking and driving.
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Talk about the wrong focus - how about the Gardai tackling the gangs in Finglas instead of harassing daycent rural folk coming out of pubs.
 
bond-007 said:
5 to 10mg (an effective zero limit) to allow for the use of mouthwashes etc that may have negligible alcohol content.
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Mouthwashes can produce breathalyser readings at much higher levels than 5-10mg. As can certain medication. If sober people who have never drank alcohol end up facing serious legal consequences for DUI, then the law stands a strong chance of ultimately being declared unconstitutional. And the head of the Road Safety Authority has publicly stated this.

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/content/kitchenscience/exp/can-you-beat-the-breathalyzer/

Mouthwash however had a major effect on the breathalyser, because alcohol is a key ingredient. The breathalyser is supposed to read lung alcohol only however because our backpacker swilled the mouthwash immediately before taking the test the machine did erroneously measure her mouth alcohol level and as a result the breathalyser reading was sky high.
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ubiquitous said:
What do you think would happen if they're at the carpark?
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What I think would happen is that those who had had more than they should be driving with would leave the car - thus making the roads safer.

And no doubt there would be some people who would blunder off regardless and at least they might be caught and prosceuted for breaking the law.
 
ubiquitous said:
Mouthwashes can produce breathalyser readings at much higher levels than 5-10mg. As can certain medication. If sober people who have never drank alcohol end up facing serious legal consequences for DUI, then the law stands a strong chance of ultimately being declared unconstitutional. And the head of the Road Safety Authority has publicly stated this.

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/content/kitchenscience/exp/can-you-beat-the-breathalyzer/
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Is that not the reason they must wait 20 mins before they can use the breathalyser on a suspect that claims to have consumed alcohol recently. Mouth alcohol breaks down in 20 mins.

Also any positive roadside test must be verified by doing an evidential breath test in a Garda Station. Garda rules require a 20 minute observation period before the administration of the evidential breath test.
 
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