4.—(1) Where in any proceedings against a person referred to in subsection (5)(b) of section 1 (inserted by section 2 of this Act) of the Act of 1906 for an offence under the Public Bodies Corrupt Practices Act, 1889, as amended, or the Act of 1906, as amended, it is proved that—
(a) any gift, consideration or advantage has been given to or received by a person,
(b) the person who gave the gift, consideration or advantage or on whose behalf the gift, consideration or advantage was given had an interest in the discharge by the person of any of the functions specified in this section,
the gift or consideration or advantage shall be deemed to have been given and received corruptly as an inducement to or reward for the person performing or omitting to perform any of the functions aforesaid unless the contrary is proved.
No problem.Thanks for the link.
You may be right but you may not be. At the moment you are making anonymous accusations on a website which provides a free public service. The owner of this website will be liable if you are wrong and those you accused take umbrage. I suggest you take this into account when posting, that's all.It would take me some time to read through the whole act, and interpret what is says. However, if the following also applies to organisations,
then It is my opinion that the IDA is acting contrary to this act, and offering such bribes is indeed illegal. However, I'm not a legal expert.
I can only speak from personal experience over the last 10 years dealing with customers in the USA, Europe, the UK, Asia and Ireland but I have found Americans to be efficient and technically knowledgeable but the thing that really differentiates them from us is their clarity of thought and ability to make decisions quickly. They are also far more honourable in their dealing than Irish people and well stick to their word.
Basically they can make clear business focused decisions faster and better than their Irish counterparts.
They also have a far better technical and commercial understanding of what they are doing. In my experience the only other country that is at their level is Holland.
I offered personal opinion and did not accuse anybody of illegal activities. If you cannot see the distinction then you should read back over the thread.You can't see any problem with the above? You're basing judgement on nationality. My post was about one organisation, backed up by proof, which you found questionable. Your post was about every single company with Irish employees! I strongly disagree with your comments, and believe it presents my own business in a negative light. Your comments are particulary damaging since we compete with American and Dutch companies. Should I take Brendan to court?
Maybe you should consider such ramifications before posting on a public forum etc, etc...
Your published, personal opinion;I offered personal opinion and did not accuse anybody of illegal activities. If you cannot see the distinction then you should read back over the thread.
No, I related personal experience of doing business with both American and Irish people. I did not defame anyone or accuse them of illegal activity.Your published, personal opinion;
- Irish people are 'less honourable' than American people.
- Americans can make clear business focused decisions faster and better than their Irish counterparts.
- Americans have a far better technical and commercial understanding of what they are doing.
(Which are simply outrageous comments to make.)
I would like to draw your attention to section 19 of the defamation act, 1961
Can you not see that you have defamed all Irish people?No, I related personal experience of doing business with both American and Irish people. I did not defame anyone or accuse them of illegal activity.
Defame To damage the reputation, character, or good name of by slander or libel.
Would you be able to interpret the act that Purple posted earlier and see if I was breaking any laws by this comment;The defamation act can only apply to an individual or specific entities.
The Americans are here because of tax reasons (or sometimes IDA bribes), not for charity.
Can you not see that you have defamed all Irish people?
The IDA is a state body. It interacts with corporations, and individuals within those corporations, in order to secure investment in this country. You made the assertion that the IDA used bribes to secure that investment. This is an illegal act. You then read the statute on Bribery and again made the claim that the IDA did indeed use bribes while conducting its business.The Americans are here because of tax reasons (or sometimes IDA bribes), not for charity.
Really? - read the first two lines.It is not possible to defame an entire nation of people. You are being ridiculous.
Of what relevance is this?There are plenty of posters on AAM that I disagree with and have entertaining and colourful discussions with, (Rainyday, aircobra19 etc ) but I still respect their opinion and have a high opinion of them.
This is not one of those threads.
The IDA is a state body. It interacts with corporations, and individuals within those corporations, in order to secure investment in this country. You made the assertion that the IDA used bribes to secure that investment. This is an illegal act. You then read the statute on Bribery and again made the claim that the IDA did indeed use bribes while conducting its business.
Would you be able to interpret the act that Purple posted earlier and see if I was breaking any laws by this comment;
The Americans are here because of tax reasons (or sometimes IDA bribes), not for charity.
Really? - read the first two lines.
So it would seem that in your opinion, Purple is pointlessly exposing the site to at least the possibility of a libel action.This would imply that only the government (acting on behalf of the Irish people) could bring such a defamation case against Purple.
So it would seem that in your opinion, Purple is pointlessly exposing the site to at least the possibility of a libel action.
(Note, the IDA is an Irish Government Agency)
(The main difference between what I've posted and what Purple has posted, is that the IDA is actually giving financial assistance for companies to locate in Ireland.
(Purple, on the other hand has nothing to back up his comments about Irish people, apart from it being his personal opinion.
Please lay off the personal attacks.What kind of bizarre fantasy land world do you live in? Seriously, grow up.
It's as likely as the IDA launching legal action against AAM for my comments. If you read back through the thread, it was Purple that first mentioned legal action.*sigh* You think the government could really launch a libel action against a website for defamation of the Irish people?
You know this for a fact now, do you?accusing people in a state agency of breaking the law