Oxygen masks on planes

The things I learn on askaboutmoney :rolleyes: Now I'll probably never fly again :eek: . Thanks guys!
 
Why? It's still by far one of the safest ways to travel as far as I know. You are much more likely to die in a car crash on your way to/from work for example! Hope that cheered you up! :D
 
Or as the safety card puts it - "in the event of landing ON water..." :rolleyes:

Not sure about fixed wing, but I'm here to tell you that you certainly can in helicopters....

That's about it as far as I can see. I know where a few aircraft have gone off the runway into the sea and also saw footage of a plane trying to land near a beach but it too crashed. (might well be the one Yoganmahew refers to) wouldn't think there was any chance of survival in mid ocean as the swell would be too much for an aircraft to take on landing.
 
Flew on South African Airline Kuala earlier this year; the cabin crew while doing the safety talk advised

"if you are travelling with a child, please fix your mask first, and then the child's ...if you are travelling with more than one child - pick your favourite!" :)
 
The reason you are told to attend to your own mask first is that a reduction in oxygen levels won't asphyxiate you (immediately!), but will instead make you giddy and decrease co-ordination, so that you mightn't be able to do your mask later.
 
I was flying from Toronto to Dublin earlier this year with a budget airline, when we got to Hamilton airport there were masses of people everywhere, and looking at the screens we could see that loads of flights from this carrier where either delayed or cancelled, luckily our flight had an on time status. I checked in and went through security and found that there where people waiting in the departure lounge all day trying to get to Glasgow and Manchester, eventually our flight got delayed 1 hour, and the Glasgow one was cancelled, there was no one of authority to tell anyone what was going on and the Manchester people had been waiting 7 hours at this stage at 10.30pm a voice came over the intercom to say that both the Dublin and Manchester flights would get away and the problem was with the planes computers, after another hour we were told to board and the Manchester people where told, that because of storms over Iceland and Greenland they where getting it difficult to get a flight path over land in case they had to make an emergency landing.
Can you believe they said something like that
 
just back from a footie weekend in Leeds and thanks to this posting , actually paid attention to the flight attendant last night when she was demonstrating the inflation vest. For the first time I noticed that when she was indicating the doors that she had to use 'reverse' hands to point out the doors ie when pointing to doors over the left wing she was using her right hand, makes sense I know as she was facing us but never noticed it before. maybe the fact that it was quite windy also concentrated the mind but it was relatively smooth.
 
You also have to pull down on those masks to activate the oxygen flow.
Worth remembering!
 
You also have to pull down on those masks to activate the oxygen flow.
Worth remembering!
If you ever have to remember this then you probably won't be posting here again about it. Or anything else! ;)
 
This greek aircrash was probably the one that Miles was referring to. It wasn't that the ground crew didn't hook up the air cylinders - some maintenance work the previous day had required the cabin pressurisation system to be set to manual rather than auto and it wasn't switched back - and the captain didn't notice this in his pre-flight checks. So, the aircraft didn't pressurise at all and when it reached 10,000ft, warnings went off which the captain misinterpreted - and he wasn't aware that the oxygen masks had dropped in the passenger cabin. By the time ground engineers asked the captain to check the pressurisation switch was set to auto, he was a bit zonked from lack of oxygen and didn't understand what they were saying. So, everyone drifted off into unconsciousness (they were all technically still alive when the plane hit the ground) after their 12/15 mins of oxygen was used up and the plane eventually crashed when it ran out of fuel - probably all very peaceful for them really. Except for one poor cabin steward (deep sea diver so probably used to using less oxygen) - he managed to stay alive by using 4 portable oxygen tanks on board - and was seen by the greek air force pilots at the controls (he was also a trainee pilot) just before it crashed after circling for 2-3 hours - he couldn't communicate with the ground as the radio frequency was still set to the take-off airport and he couldn't/didn't know how to change it. Can't have been much fun for him particularly as his fiancee was also a stewardess on board.

thats unreal. Shows that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. And the fiancee, that's just cruel. Should he have flow over the sea, opened one of the doors and jumped at x altitude. On another crash in japan in the early 90s up to 10 people survived when the plane hit a mountain but the rescue services waited until daylight to go to the site and most of em died during the night. Ps they were sitting in the very back of plane.
 
Billy Connolly: always ask for a set at the back because 'planes don't reverse into mountains.
 
You should be able to breath at altitudes above 10,000 ft, but the higher you go the more chance you will not have enough and you will get confused and do stupid things. So even if you only get down to say 15,000 ft you should be ok.
Why would this be important point, well 10,000 ft through the Alps, Andes, Rockies etc would be a little dangerous.

Speaking of losing cabin oxygen, that is what happened to the private jet belonging to the golfer Payne Stewart a few years ago.

I was once on flight where just on climb out the oxygen masks dropped above us. We were at the back but enough people spotted it and there were a few shocked looks.
We of course were told not pull them.
They sealed them back up with sticky tape, so we would have to pull the tape if there was a real emergency.
 
Economist Magazine Oct 2006 :"In the entire history of aviation the number of widebody aircraft to successfully land on water is zero"

All these lifejackets and demonstrations are to make you feel good.
 
Economist Magazine Oct 2006 :"In the entire history of aviation the number of widebody aircraft to successfully land on water is zero"

All these lifejackets and demonstrations are to make you feel good.

The number of totally successful water landings may be zero but there have been water crash-landings with survivors - although ironically the lifejackets may kill rather than save. In 1996 a hijacked ethiopian airlines 767 landed (and was captured pretty spectacularly on video from a nearby beach - youtube has it) close to some islands. The video makes it look like it disintegrated totally but one-third of passengers and the 2 pilots survived. 123 of the 175 passengers and crew members were killed, as well as all three hijackers. Many of the passengers who died survived the crash but they had disregarded the captain's warning not to inflate their life jackets inside the aircraft, causing them to be 'pushed' against the ceiling of the fuselage by the inflated life jackets, unable to escape, and drowned. An estimated 60 to 80 passengers, strapped to their seats, presumably drowned. The survivors were helped to safety by people on the nearby beaches.
 
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