Employer forcing staff to take holidays - Such a pain!

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There can be pro's to being able to "take" holidays when you want. My company used to work over Xmas & New years and for 4 years in a row I ended up having to cover Xmas eve and Stephens day to let the country staff travel. Naturally
 
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Re. Country people going home:

I had to work Christmas day once in a job in Dublin because a Dublin woman wouldn't swap with me. I'm from the west of Ireland, was 20, homesick and lonely....I can't even think about it now without getting depressed. :(
 
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Trafford said:
Re. Country people going home:

I had to work Christmas day once in a job in Dublin because a Dublin woman wouldn't swap with me. I'm from the west of Ireland, was 20, homesick and lonely....I can't even think about it now without getting depressed. :(
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Why should she swap with you? Is she not entitled to her leave too? Surely a fairer way to decide is on service and/or a rota?
 
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batty said:
Why should she swap with you? Is she not entitled to her leave too? Surely a fairer way to decide is on service and/or a rota?
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Because it was Christmas and it would have been a nice thing to do. I would have done it if the tables were reversed. She gets up, sees her kids, has her santy time, drives into work, comes home to her family, has her cosy family Christmas dinner.
I got up in a cold damp bedsit, with nobody to wish me a happy Christmas, no friends or family in this strange city, walked the 4 miles to work because there was no buses and I was a kid in first job so no car or money for taxis. Went home, sat in my cold damp bedsit and cried my eyes out with lonliness, thinking of my family all gathered together for Christmas.

It was the millenium, so I had offered to work New Year's eve, 1999, for which there was no extra cash or anything like there were in some work places, if she would do Christmas for me. I thought it would have been a fair swap really. I was prepared to miss the millenium celebrations with family, just to spend Christmas with them.

Her actual argument was similar to yours "you want to see your family on Christmas day, and so do I, so I'm not swapping". She failed to notice that she would see her family that day, whereas I couldn't. We only had to do a half day too, for which I lost all of Christmas. :rolleyes: Didn't blame work at all. They needed the cover, and on the weekly rotation I was rostered on. My manager was shocked that I couldn't get the swap.
 
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Jaysus Trafford, you must've been making voodoo dolls of that 'female dog' !!!
What a crappy thing to do !!!

Karma.....bet she got what was coming to her !
 
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Trafford said:
Because it was Christmas and it would have been a nice thing to do. I would have done it if the tables were reversed. She gets up, sees her kids, has her santy time, drives into work, comes home to her family, has her cosy family Christmas dinner.
I got up in a cold damp bedsit, with nobody to wish me a happy Christmas, no friends or family in this strange city, walked the 4 miles to work because there was no buses and I was a kid in first job so no car or money for taxis. Went home, sat in my cold damp bedsit and cried my eyes out with lonliness, thinking of my family all gathered together for Christmas.

It was the millenium, so I had offered to work New Year's eve, 1999, for which there was no extra cash or anything like there were in some work places, if she would do Christmas for me. I thought it would have been a fair swap really. I was prepared to miss the millenium celebrations with family, just to spend Christmas with them.

Her actual argument was similar to yours "you want to see your family on Christmas day, and so do I, so I'm not swapping". She failed to notice that she would see her family that day, whereas I couldn't. We only had to do a half day too, for which I lost all of Christmas. :rolleyes: Didn't blame work at all. They needed the cover, and on the weekly rotation I was rostered on. My manager was shocked that I couldn't get the swap.
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But you choose to work on the other side of the country. That's hardly her problem.
 
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Yeah, cause there are great career prospects, especially for graduates, in the West!

My parents lived over 100 miles away from their homeplace. My father had a job that must be manned over Christmas and in 32 years in the job only had to work one Christmas Day. Most people are very good about letting those who have to travel home, Trafford was very unlucky.
 
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Trafford said:
Because it was Christmas and it would have been a nice thing to do. I would have done it if the tables were reversed. She gets up, sees her kids, has her santy time, drives into work, comes home to her family, has her cosy family Christmas dinner.
I got up in a cold damp bedsit, with nobody to wish me a happy Christmas, no friends or family in this strange city, walked the 4 miles to work because there was no buses and I was a kid in first job so no car or money for taxis. Went home, sat in my cold damp bedsit and cried my eyes out with lonliness, thinking of my family all gathered together for Christmas.

It was the millenium, so I had offered to work New Year's eve, 1999, for which there was no extra cash or anything like there were in some work places, if she would do Christmas for me. I thought it would have been a fair swap really. I was prepared to miss the millenium celebrations with family, just to spend Christmas with them.

Her actual argument was similar to yours "you want to see your family on Christmas day, and so do I, so I'm not swapping". She failed to notice that she would see her family that day, whereas I couldn't. We only had to do a half day too, for which I lost all of Christmas. :rolleyes: Didn't blame work at all. They needed the cover, and on the weekly rotation I was rostered on. My manager was shocked that I couldn't get the swap.
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Take it to Letting Off Steam perhaps?
 
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jrewing said:
Jaysus, have a heart....
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Indeed. The wench from work isn't the only Scrooge around it seems.

Believe me, I'd be back in the west as quick as a flash if only there was a chance of a career for me. One of the biggest unspoken about tragedies of this generation is the fact that thousands of people who availed of the free 3rd level education now find themselves hours from home and family, mortgaged to the hilt on a shoebox, and facing a dismal prospect of settling down in over crowded urban areas, when they always saw themselves back at their rural roots. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing really.

It's ironic that education can trap you sometimes, rather than set you free....
 
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Trafford said:
Indeed. The wench from work isn't the only Scrooge around it seems.

Believe me, I'd be back in the west as quick as a flash if only there was a chance of a career for me. One of the biggest unspoken about tragedies of this generation is the fact that thousands of people who availed of the free 3rd level education now find themselves hours from home and family, mortgaged to the hilt on a shoebox, and facing a dismal prospect of settling down in over crowded urban areas, when they always saw themselves back at their rural roots. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing really.

It's ironic that education can trap you sometimes, rather than set you free....
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A little learning is a dangerous thing :D
 
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Sorry Trafford - but I think u have a few issues here - there is nothing really stopping u from jacking it all in in Dublin and moving to the west, there are oppertunities there and businesses, though you probably would have to take a cut in salary...
 
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Trafford said:
It's ironic that education can trap you sometimes, rather than set you free....
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I normally dont post in LOS but have to say I find this comment ridiculous and would think it a friday afternoon attempt at trolling if I hadnt read the build up to it.
If you think your education has trapped you where you are, youve got the wrong education or you need to get another one.
Someone posted on AAM many moons ago that they had been told by a wise professor that to do everything you can to be happy by the time youre 40 ,ie, have your career, family, home all in situ. If you havent done it by 40 the reasoning is that you arent going to get there. If I read correctly that youre about 28, you've got ample time in your life to change it.
 
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pinkyBear said:
Sorry Trafford - but I think u have a few issues here - there is nothing really stopping u from jacking it all in in Dublin and moving to the west, there are oppertunities there and businesses, though you probably would have to take a cut in salary...
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I've been searching, believe me. Opportunities are much slower to come up, but one day I believe it will happen. You have to stay focused on what you want in life, or else how do you stay going?
 
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The problem that has been evident for years is that all the focus in attracting major investment is to the Dublin area.

IT companies (for example) are few and far between in the rest of the country and employ far fewer people. For example, if I do a job search, the vast majority of those jobs returned are in Dublin. Not much hope for someone from the west to work in their chosen career near to their roots.

Until this is changed Dublin is gonna grow more and more sprawled (Dublin 92...or The Town Formerly Known As Athlone, anyone ?).

To Hell or to Connaught indeed !!!
 
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