Over financing on car loan.

Do you mean give the car back to the garage? Technically if you financed the car on a hire purchase agreement you dont own the car the bank does until you clear the finance.

The garage wont take back the car anyway. The only way would be for you to sell the car and use the money to clear the finance. However as you overfinanced you will still be €5k+ depreciation+ settlement charges short.

The overfinancing only means your car is not worth what you own on it.
 
Can you explain the overfinancing a bit more.

If the car was only 25,000 why did you have to finance 30,000?
Did you get 5k cash out of this as well??
 
Can you explain the overfinancing a bit more.

If the car was only 25,000 why did you have to finance 30,000?
Did you get 5k cash out of this as well??


No the finance on his trade in was €5k MORE than what the garage gave him for it. Usually the customer would put down a €5k deposit but in the case the garage when putting through the finance deal said the car was worth €30k when really only €25k, therefore allowing the customer to borrow more.

The garage would have used the extra 5k to clear the finance on the trade in.
 
If the car's on HP then you can't legally sell it as its not yours. I'm wondering if the €5000 extra was the interest and cost of the HP agreement. If you hand back the car it will be sold at auction for considerably less than you paid for it - even selling privately you are unlikely to get the same price as you paid. You then owe the balance on the HP agreement.

If you could get somebody to buy the car then i would approch the hP company and advise them of your situation and check whether they might be prepared to do a deal by allowing you to sell the car and pay the balance yourself (likely to be a few K). you should get a rebate on the interest as you'll be paying it off before the term is up (e.g paying off in 6 months rather than 5 years). If you haven't got the money then they might be prepared to do a deal with you to convert the balance to a loan and allow you to pay back over time. Either way you are still likely to be losing money so it might if possible be better keeping the car for the moment.

There is also a half-way rule where you can hand back the car after paying half and depending how far into the agreement you are it might be worth considering this.
 
If the car's on HP then you can't legally sell it as its not yours. I'm wondering if the €5000 extra was the interest and cost of the HP agreement. If you hand back the car it will be sold at auction for considerably less than you paid for it - even selling privately you are unlikely to get the same price as you paid. You then owe the balance on the HP agreement.

If you could get somebody to buy the car then i would approch the hP company and advise them of your situation and check whether they might be prepared to do a deal by allowing you to sell the car and pay the balance yourself (likely to be a few K). you should get a rebate on the interest as you'll be paying it off before the term is up (e.g paying off in 6 months rather than 5 years). If you haven't got the money then they might be prepared to do a deal with you to convert the balance to a loan and allow you to pay back over time. Either way you are still likely to be losing money so it might if possible be better keeping the car for the moment.

There is also a half-way rule where you can hand back the car after paying half and depending how far into the agreement you are it might be worth considering this.

The additional €5k doesnt include interest. This is how it works.

New car - €25,000
Less Trade in - €5,000
Plus Settlement - €10,000

= Finance amount - €30,000

You cannot finance more than the car is worth so max finance allowed her is €25,000, so customer short €5,000 and needs to put down €5k as a deposit up front.
So the salesman says the new car is worth €30,000 in order to allow the customer to finance €30,000.

But now the cus owes €30,000 for the car and its only worth €25,000. It means he will be in a worse position when he trades it in as the settlement will be way above what the garages will give him for it.

OP said he has only made a couple of payments on the car. Bank can reposses and sell the car if less than 1/3 paid, cus can hand it back of more than 1/2 paid.

If it was done over 5 years at 8% total amount repayable would be €36,600, as far as i can remember a settlement figure is calculated under the Rule of 78, which gives a 5% discount for early repayment. I reckon the OP will still owe about €33,000 (perhaps someone could do this more accurately)

The OP can get a settlement figure by calling the bank and can see where he stands, but either way will owe a good few thousand more than he will sell the car for.
He can sell it but in order for title to pass he must clear the total amount outstanding on the HP agreement.
 
thanx everyone for their input on this,esp thrifty who just about hit the nail on the head with his approx figures. At this time as I am still with perfect credit rating I am wondering if the finance company could take the car back and agree with me to pay the outstanding balance vis a personal loan,if my shortfall is about 8thousand euro i will be paying back approx 160 euro p.m instead of 600 which is what i am currently paying,will drive another old car for the time being,hurts a bit but needs must. cheers

This might affect your credit rating and seeing as you have a perfect one you will want to keep it that way.

If it were me, i would see if my own bank would give me a personal loan for the €8,000 (holiday,home improvements, etc),or try bank of scotland/halifax you might get a loan there cheaper, then sell the car and pay back the finance company.

Im not totally sure how your suggestion would work, the finance company may do it as a restructure on the loan and this could show up on the ICB and could affect your credit rating.

Contact the finance company and check this out and ask about an effect on your credit rating if they were willing to do this. I have had some dealings with restructures on HP agreements (but not for cars ) whereby the customer would make smaller repayments for a period of time but this restructure would be reported to the ICB.

If the finance company take your car back they will sell it a lot cheaper, you will get a better price selling privately and will therefore reduce the shortfall.
If you do sell it privately you will need your personal loan in place as the settlement will have to be cleared immediately and im sure the buyer will want proof of this.
 
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