New C Class

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Any views? Looks nicer then the new 3 series (wouldn't be hard). Heard something somewhere that they have conducted more tests on this for reliability than any other Merc in history....
 
Petermack, I hope your father enjoys it.
Nicer looking car than the old C Class and the 3 Series.
Sport looks very well. I would agree that it resembles a scaled down S remarkably.
 
The entry model 1.8 has 156bhp which is pretty good. 43,240 before you add on basic extras!
 
You are right, Irish cars are lower spec than UK cars for instance... It is to keep price down becuase of high tax.

The cars you see on manufacturer's website are fully loaded to make then look as attractive as possible which is fair enough.
The car you have tried may be an "entry" level, hence looks different.
 
Since BMW took over the importation & distribution of cars into Ireland - Irish cars get the same spec as UK cars.
I'm considering a new C180 for January along with a BMW 320i SE and IS220d. As far a I can see at E46k the BMW is better spec'd than the Merc. The base C180 Classic at just over E43k even get steel wheels for another three grand you get 320 in top SE spec. Merc makes sence from a motor tax point of view but with VRT changes due in the budget in December who know what will happen. Audi will be launching a new A4 in Sept at the Frankfurt motor show so might be worth a look also.
 
Yes according to Cowens budget speech he was putting together a working group to examine the issue - the EU quite rightly told the Govt the VRT wasn't inline the whole idea of a common market. I very much doubt what VRT is going to be srapped overnight more like a replacement tax based on Co2 emissions and perhaps road tax and fuel prices rising to compensate for lost revenue. I suppose the Greens would favour this view at its more inline with the polluter pays principal.
 
Yes according to Cowens budget speech he was putting together a working group to examine the issue - the EU quite rightly told the Govt the VRT wasn't inline the whole idea of a common market. I very much doubt what VRT is going to be srapped overnight more like a replacement tax based on Co2 emissions and perhaps road tax and fuel prices rising to compensate for lost revenue. I suppose the Greens would favour this view at its more inline with the polluter pays principal.

makes senses. I think the best and fairest way to compensate for the lost VRT revenue is fuel tax. (I actually have a fairly thirsty 2.0l car, so I'm not saying that for personal benefit!). But it surely should be high for a -say- 1.6l car that does 30K miles a year than a 2.5l that does 2K! And fuel prices is the best place to capture that!
 
Insurance should be purchased through the fuel as well, then at least every car on the road would be both taxed and insured and the guy going to mass once a week pays his fair share and the guy doing 1000km a week pays his fair share.
 
Note also for diesel fans that Saab are launcing a revised 9-3 with an option of a 178bhp 1.9ttid. Might just be below the VRT threshhold which would make it very competitive with the others.
 
Insurance should be purchased through the fuel as well, then at least every car on the road would be both taxed and insured and the guy going to mass once a week pays his fair share and the guy doing 1000km a week pays his fair share.

That wouldn't be fair as a 17 year old L driver would be paying the same insurance costs as someone who is statistically more safe even if the both do the same mileage.

I think the knock-on effects of slapping motor tax into the fuel costs are that people would drive less and also the boys up North would do more fuel smuggling. Taxi fares would also increase.
 
Also, by taxing the car outright instead of at the pump the Gov can get a more precise estimate of revenues coming in....nothing like a steady cashflow!
 
Yes according to Cowens budget speech he was putting together a working group to examine the issue - the EU quite rightly told the Govt the VRT wasn't inline the whole idea of a common market. I very much doubt what VRT is going to be srapped overnight more like a replacement tax based on Co2 emissions and perhaps road tax and fuel prices rising to compensate for lost revenue. I suppose the Greens would favour this view at its more inline with the polluter pays principal.

You were very accurate. Respect.
 
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