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I have 3 bed semi house in the Dublin West and considering Attic Conversion. I got a quote for €18,000. is it fair price?

Any particular things I need to take care while this conversion?

If I decide to put the windows in the front, how long would be take for PP grant permission?


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Ciaran
 
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I wouldnt be familiar with Dublin prices so I wont comment other than to say that it sounds reasonable if its for the finished job.

You will need to make sure that the price covers everything - plumbing, electrics, insulation and ventilation and of course the stairs.

You will need to allow a minimum of 3 months for planning for windows to front and dont forget that you also need planning for any windows to the side gable/roof. The works will have to comply with building regs so you should get a plan and spec. for your proposals.
 
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thats a crazy price for attic conversion, 7-9k would be more realalistic.there are alot of attic specialists out there shop arround !
 
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setemupjoe said:
thats a crazy price for attic conversion, 7-9k would be more realalistic.there are alot of attic specialists out there shop arround !
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would love to know where you got 7-9k for your price ? I'm just finishing off mine (did all work myself - apart from sparks/plumbing/plastering) and my materials bill stands somewhere in the region of 8k without paying any trades.
 
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I've got quotes in north county Dublin ranging from €15,300 to about €18,000. That would be for a 3 bed end of terrace.
 
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maybe im out of touch on this i got the quote from a latvian carpenter who was going to do it all himself,included two velux windows to the back , staircase and attic to shell condition .insulated,plasterboarded and ply floor.i would have had to pay for plugs, light,and switches myself to be hooked up by an electrician.it was early 06 .i didnt go for it in the end ,maybe im lucky i didnt !8k seems alot for just materials .whats the breakdown if you dont mind me asking nai ?
 
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setemupjoe said:
maybe im out of touch on this i got the quote from a latvian carpenter who was going to do it all himself,included two velux windows to the back , staircase and attic to shell condition .insulated,plasterboarded and ply floor.i would have had to pay for plugs, light,and switches myself to be hooked up by an electrician.it was early 06 .i didnt go for it in the end ,maybe im lucky i didnt !8k seems alot for just materials .whats the breakdown if you dont mind me asking nai ?
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Umm... What is going to hold up your ply floor or your roof for that matter. Most conversions will require the floor to be reinforced and changes made to the roof's supporting timbers, fire doors, RSJs etc etc.

Towger
 
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..what about insurance in case the roof falls in (literally)? How much does that add to the build?
 
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roofs supporting timbers were being reconfigured,and floor was being weighted on the the wall points, he had photos of previous jobs and client refs ,but as i didnt go ahead i didnt pursue it further .was going to look at it this year again ,im sure the guys prices have gone up.people should not jump to conclusions that because the craftsman comes from latvia or poland that there work is substandard,we had cowboys well before we imported imigrants instead of exporting them .i remember the new york union carpenders said the same about the irish imigrant carpenders until they were proved wrong.after all whats the cost of materials ratio to labour for most building projects ? 20:80 40:60 ? there lies the point if a jobs materials are costing 8k for both and builder 1 wants to make 8klabour for 2 weeks work and builder 2 is happy to earn 3k for 2 weeks work its a big price difference 16k as opposed to 11k obviously you have to satisfy yourself of the persons craftmanship
 
If your house is a modern build you have to get RSJs inserted. Modern houses use prefabricated roof trusses and these are not designed (a) to be cut and (b) to hold up a floor. The RSJs provide extra support pinning to the roof beams, and the floor is also hung off them. If you chose to go down the route of not having RSJs you'd better make sure you get a structural engineers cert stating that the roof structure is still sound. If you ever go to sell the house the buyers will definitely be looking for this.
 
i would stongly recommend not using a dublin based company.
country prices are alot better regardless of whats being done.
 
my house is 1950s house and solidas a rock.think your right about some new houses.
 
don't have actual breakdown at the minute (will post it later) but for starters here are some of the big costs :

RSJ's (28' span * 2) - €950
Stairs (Prefabricated by joinery shop - no balustrades/handrail) - €1150
Veluxes * 3 - €1450
Handrails/Balustrades/Skirting/Architrave etc - €510 (just paid this one today)

Will follow on with rest.
 
thanks would be a good guideline if i look for another quote .
 
Wonder if there is any issues ( from security,re-selling etc) by putting the Attic windows in the front.
Just that our house is east facing and luved to get sun ( in summer ofcourse :)) in the morning straight into room...

Cheers,
Ciaran
 
knockers said:
Wonder if there is any issues ( from security,re-selling etc) by putting the Attic windows in the front.
Just that our house is east facing and luved to get sun ( in summer ofcourse :)) in the morning straight into room...

Cheers,
Ciaran
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Requires planning permission. Appart from that no problems.
 
i think you only need to get planning permission and your set. i think its worth doing and waiting for the planning ,i have seen on the net windows that go from one side to the other over the top looked great and gave great light all day.say its expensive though.
 
lissard said:
If your house is a modern build you have to get RSJs inserted. Modern houses use prefabricated roof trusses and these are not designed (a) to be cut and (b) to hold up a floor. The RSJs provide extra support pinning to the roof beams, and the floor is also hung off them. If you chose to go down the route of not having RSJs you'd better make sure you get a structural engineers cert stating that the roof structure is still sound. If you ever go to sell the house the buyers will definitely be looking for this.
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well put lissard very important info..... !!!
Standard price I know from a dublin (trustworthy) builder is averageing 16K.
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Thats a crazy price, you need to shop around as I did and I eventually had the attic in my three bed end of terrace house converted for 9K in Waterford City. This included the necessary extra floor and roof supports, made to measure stairs, two velux windows to the rear, plastering etc. Excellent finish.
 
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