Recycling

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I am living in the county with no bin collection. I have a growing problem of waste now. I am currently putting the recycling stuff to one side but i have no where to store it.

Can anyone suggest of a good storage solution that will keep animals / weather out, easy to lift for when we are making a trip to the recycling centre. The Wheelie bins i have looked at in Viking who will do them for €99.99 for 240 ltr but will need 3 in total and that is expensive then.

Any other suggestions?

Cheers
 
It's very trendy these days to be "into recycling".
I saw a woman in the recycling centre in Rathmines recycling up to 100 plastic plant pots. Despite how taken aback I was, I didn't admonish her, though I got the vibe that she was proud of her deed.

Recycling is better than waste, but it's the last of the three r's.
Don't forget about reducing and reusing.
 
It's very trendy these days to be "into recycling".
I saw a woman in the recycling centre in Rathmines recycling up to 100 plastic plant pots. Despite how taken aback I was, I didn't admonish her, though I got the vibe that she was proud of her deed.

Recycling is better than waste, but it's the last of the three r's.
Don't forget about reducing and reusing.

Bit of a rant there, but sorry, can't answer your question. Good luck.
 
It's a bit like all the people who drive their cars to the (often nearby) recycling centre thus contributing to carbon emissions on their way to do their good deed.
 
It's a bit like all the people who drive their cars to the (often nearby) recycling centre thus contributing to carbon emissions on their way to do their good deed.

Hence the widespread recommendation to do it in bulk and combine it with shopping... the Rathmines centre is at the back of Dunnes and is open on the weekends, you can't go wrong.
 
In my area we don't have a wheelie bin for recycling, we use clear plastic recycling bags - they are E2.25 each (I know it seems steep, but this includes collection.) A lot of super markets stock clear bags on a roll - providing that your recycling is clean and dry before you put it in the bag, you should have no problem with rodents etc. and just leave them outside/in the shed until yr ready to offload them.

Another thing worth doing is squashing anything you can - tin cans, drinks cans, milk/squash bottles - anything to cram in a bit more!
 
I'm less and less convinced as to the true worth of recycling anyway. A lot of goods for recycling are shipped to China as it is the cheapest option - this is true of the UK at least. I've also read that recycling glass uses four times as much energy as producing a new bottle and that the old system of milkman (milkperson now?) collecting empties was far more beneficial.

Some of it seems like placebo recycling to me, thinking of all those millions of plastic wheelie bins being churned out and all the old disused bins discarded somewhere. Using less is always the best policy in my opinion.
 
Where is there no bin collection?

Dirty H2O
I heard on radio that each bottle recycled made a big energy saving. Hard to know who tells the truth

Bring back returnable bottles
 
sorry, not 100% relevant to this thread, but does anyone know if you can put envelopes into the green bin? (obviously not the window bit)..... thought i heard something once about the gummed bit being a problem but not sure
thanks
 
I've also read that recycling glass uses four times as much energy as producing a new bottle and that the old system of milkman (milkperson now?) collecting empties was far more beneficial.
Simply not true - glass is one of the most worthwhile items to recycle. Regarding the collecting empties issue, there is something in that - but given that very few, proportionally, of the glass receptacles constituting waste are actually of Irish origin or have a suitable collection network, it's just not practical [who's going to take all those wine bottles back to Australia, the beer bottles back to Germany, the Dolmio jars back to Italy ;)? ].

The recycling abroad is an issue, but not one about which we always have a choice - for example, the Irish Glass Bottle Company closed down because the site was so valuable, and private industry is sitting on its hands and hoping the Government will grant assist a new one, even though it would almost certainly be a profitable venture from the get-go. However, it's worth considering that a great deal of the time, the recyclables are transported as ballast in cargo ships which would otherwise just be travelling back empty - the carbon implications of the long distance transport are therefore negligible, as the ships would be making the journey, or a very similar journey, irrespective of whether the recyclables were being transported.

But there are lots of people who think that if you just segregate some of your waste, without doing anything at all to reduce / reuse (re-think), they've done the environment a huge favour for which they should be patted on the back. The "recyclers" who annoy me most are the ones who drive to the recycling centre / bottle bank, with a dozen or so bottles, and who leave the engine running while they "nip out" to recycle. Grrrr!

... Envelopes: gummed bit is generally only a problem if it's that really heavy duty gum you occasionally get on large envelopes, in which case you should probably cut off the flap.
 
I never suggested that glass is one of the types of goods that are exported for recycling, just that it supposed to be not as beneficial as recycling plastics or other non degradeable materials that we don't seem to do anything with currently.

Apologies for not having the link to the source for this as hearsay is pretty worthless.

I like the empty ship argument - it reminds me of how Germany used to insist that all packaging from Gateway PC's shipped there from here had to be taken back to Ireland for disposal. Those tranport vessels were empty too but I'd also worry about what happens to them on their return, considering the illegal landfills found in Wicklow it's not impossible that businesses in other countries might do likewise too.

I'd definitely agree with you that reuse or restraint in consumption are the most effective methods to reduce the huge amount of waste produced.
 
I never suggested that glass is one of the types of goods that are exported for recycling, just that it supposed to be not as beneficial as recycling plastics or other non degradeable materials that we don't seem to do anything with currently.
I wasn't reading it as your suggesting glass is exported for recycling - but I know for a fact that it is exported, because the sole glass recycling company closed some years ago.

Recycling plastics is usually expensive, requires very clean high quality input materials, and for certain grades of plastic is of such questionable value that its only net positive effect is as a feel-good exercise. Seriously. Some of the recycling is beneficial, but not all, and people should be looking very carefully at their plastics usage if they want to improve their green credentials. Dirty plastics (food wrappers, trays and films, for example) should always be binned for final disposal - they simply contaminate the rest of it. Mixed material plastics should where possible be separated.

Glass recycling, by contrast, really is one of the top environmental quick wins. Where I have packaging options, I always take glass over plastic for exactly this reason. [I take aluminium over glass as well where poss - another fairly easy recycling stream, and lighter and cheaper to transport].

- for all the Wicklow dumping scandal, we're actually not the worst in Europe, by a long shot. Mostly, it has to be said, *because* of the Wicklow dumping scandal - there's been a huge amount of progress in the last number of years. May it take less to change some of our other neglected policy areas...
 
Ribbons I think the suggestion above - of flattening boxes and cardboard, flattening aluminium cans, squashing plastic containers etc. is probably the way to go with what you've got already, till you can make that big trip.

The comments about not using in the first place and re-using are important. I buy loose fruit and vegetables wherever possible, try to avoid Tetra-Pak (which is environmentally-damaging to make and cannot be recycled) and generally make a nuisance of myself in the local supermarket by often putting suggestions into the box for less packaging! These things do work! Many supermarkets are now responding to customer interest in organic, locally-grown produce and recycleable and/or less packaging.

Don't give up!
 
"........by often putting suggestions into the box for less packaging! "

I cannot wait for someone to point out that writing a suggestion for the suggestion box is a shameful waste of paper! :)
 
I've also read that recycling glass uses four times as much energy as producing a new bottle and that the old system of milkman (milkperson now?) collecting empties was far more beneficial.

Ha? What are you on about?
Recycled glass goes into things like road surfaces, etc., not into new milkbottles. Where did you read this drivel?
 
Some of it seems like placebo recycling to me, thinking of all those millions of plastic wheelie bins being churned out and all the old disused bins discarded somewhere. Using less is always the best policy in my opinion.

Millions? Are you saying there's one plastic wheelie bin per person? I doubt there's one per household. The population of the Republic of Ireland in about 4.2 million people.

Agree with you on the using less... reduce, reuse, recycle.
 
The "recyclers" who annoy me most are the ones who drive to the recycling centre / bottle bank, with a dozen or so bottles, and who leave the engine running while they "nip out" to recycle. Grrrr!

I wouldn't worry about it. Some vehicles use far more fuel getting started than they do idling for some seconds.
 
I wouldn't worry about it. Some vehicles use far more fuel getting started than they do idling for some seconds.

I've never actually seen anyone manage the "nip out" to recycle in under a minute - typically: out of the car, round to the boot, open, remove bag / box, around the other side of the car, deposit bottles in one or more receptacles, box back into boot, back into car [look smug, drive off;) ]. Do you reckon starting the car would seriously use the amount of fuel for a minute or more of the engine "idling"? [Genuine question, for avoidance of any possible doubt - as a non car owner/driver, I'm not really up on relative fuel efficiency of engine modes, etc.]
 
The Wheelie bins i have looked at in Viking who will do them for €99.99 for 240 ltr but will need 3 in total and that is expensive then.

Any other suggestions?

Cheers

Have you tried contacting the Galway City council, recently due to the number of customers moving to private waste disposal firms they have an overload of returned bins. See [broken link removed] article.
The bin would be second hand but the vast majority would be in good condition. After all, you would be saving the bin having to be re-cycled by re-using it. I doubt that there would be any charge for these bins.
 
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