Land Acreage
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Ordinance survey map, 1:2500 scale. Shows exact acerage in each land parcel.
Areas for letting are notoriously vauge and often incorrect. Hedgerows are not normally deducted. Larger areas of bog, rock, water, yards, etc may or may not be deducted. i.e. a 20 acre field which includes a 1 acre yard and 3 acres of bog may rent as 20 acres at a somewhat lower rent per acre. In my opinion, if you are renting out 20 acres then state it is 20 acres. Agree the yearly price and divide this by 20 to get your per acre price.
Areas for letting are notoriously vauge and often incorrect. Hedgerows are not normally deducted. Larger areas of bog, rock, water, yards, etc may or may not be deducted. i.e. a 20 acre field which includes a 1 acre yard and 3 acres of bog may rent as 20 acres at a somewhat lower rent per acre. In my opinion, if you are renting out 20 acres then state it is 20 acres. Agree the yearly price and divide this by 20 to get your per acre price.
Take a map of the property to someone (engineer, technician, draughtsman) who can scale off the pieces that are to be discounted.
As you know the areas stated on maps are to the centre of hedges, ditchs etc so what you need done is for someone to scale of the perimeter of the lands and allowing for a metre wide strip right around you will get an area of workable/arable land. Likewise you can get them to give you an area of the rough patches of ground.
The only thing to watch out for is that a lot of farmers use 2 different sized acres - the big acre and the small acre. I know that sounds crazy but its true.
Here in Donegal farmers refer to a "wee acre" which in their opinion is 3 roods.
When they refer to the "big acre" they mean 4 roods.
And before I forget there is also the statute acre, the irish acre and the cunningham acre in existance here(at least as far as the farmers are concerned)
Cute hoors
As you know the areas stated on maps are to the centre of hedges, ditchs etc so what you need done is for someone to scale of the perimeter of the lands and allowing for a metre wide strip right around you will get an area of workable/arable land. Likewise you can get them to give you an area of the rough patches of ground.
The only thing to watch out for is that a lot of farmers use 2 different sized acres - the big acre and the small acre. I know that sounds crazy but its true.
Here in Donegal farmers refer to a "wee acre" which in their opinion is 3 roods.
When they refer to the "big acre" they mean 4 roods.
And before I forget there is also the statute acre, the irish acre and the cunningham acre in existance here(at least as far as the farmers are concerned)
Cute hoors
The EU payments which he may be able to clain on the land are paid inclusive of normal hedges. It is not usual practice to deduct hedges because, amoung other things, it would create a truly enormous industry for yearly map measuring. A 10 acre field is a 10 acre field. Find another farmer who is not so sensitive to small area deductions. Standard deductions for hedges/headlands are as follows
small fields <4 Hectares .07 Ha loss per metre width of headland
medium fields up to 10 Hectares .14 Ha loss per metre width of headland
Large fields up to 20 Hectares .19 Ha loss per metre width of headland
Get real about this. Do it as everybody else does. The land rental market is hot this year, find someone who will pay the same or more money in total for the farm, then it matters not a jot what the per acre payment is.
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does Promap cover Ireland also - I use it here in the UK all the time and it is very accurate