Revenue's review of historic LPT valuation upon sale of property

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I see that Revenue are now doing reviews of all historic LPT valuations used where any residential property is sold for more than €400k and the sale price exceeds certain predefined limits they set as to what the sale price suggests the historic LPT valuation should have been.

For example, if the property is sold for more than 15% above the top of the valuation band declared as at 1 November 2021, or 125% of the valuation at 1 May 2013 then the owner is obliged to go through a process with Revenue who are fishing for potential underpayment of LPT. The seller has to get an LPT clearance from Revenue and provide this to the buyer or the sale won't complete.

So I'm interested to understand if people have practical experience of engaging with Revenue on this and if they are willing to accept evidence that taxpayers provide to justify the valuation used (e.g. property price register historic sales) or if they insist on additional LPT being plus interest and penalties?

If only additional tax is payable, that's one thing, but if interest and penalties apply, that could be punitive given the effective 8% rate of interest on underpaid tax and Revenue can go back to 2013.

Remember of course that the government and Revenue, whether you believed them or not, made very comforting statements about the valuation when they were trying to get people file their returns and into the system for annual tax collection. A lot of people will have used the valuation that Revenue suggested. But when the property is sold now Revenue come up with these factors they say can be used to indicate what the historic valuation should have been (albeit as a rebuttable presumption) and imply that people undeclared the values.

This again further adds to the significant tax cost risk associated with property ownership. People could be building up large liabilities.
 
For example, if the property is sold for more than 15% above the top of the valuation band declared as at 1 November 2021, or 125% of the valuation at 1 May 2013 then the owner is obliged to go through a process with Revenue who are fishing for potential underpayment of LPT.
This sounds crazy. Property price inflation since November 2021 is way above 15%.
 

You must obtain Revenue clearance on the sale of a property. [...]
There are two types of Revenue clearance: general clearance and specific clearance.

General clearance means that you do not need to submit an application to Revenue. General clearance applies if either of these conditions are met:

Condition 1​

Sale price is €400,000 or less.

Condition 2 (A) applies if your property was liable for LPT on 01 May 2013​

Sale price does not exceed:

  • the upper limit of the valuation band by 125% (or 125% above the actual declared value for properties above Band 19) declared as of 01 May 2013 and
  • the upper limit of the valuation band by 15% (or 15% above the actual declared value for properties above Band 19) declared as of 01 November 2021.

Condition 2 (B) applies if your property was not liable for LPT on 01 May 2013​

Sale price does not exceed:

  • 15% of the upper limit of the valuation band (or 15% above the actual declared value for properties above Band 19) declared as of 01 November 2021.

Specific clearance​

If you do not meet Condition 1 or Condition 2, you must apply to Revenue for specific clearance. You can apply for specific clearance by completing Form LPT5. You can submit your form through MyEnquiries when you log in to the LPT portal.
Specific clearance applications are generally processed within 12 working days. Please do not contact Revenue for an update unless this time frame has elapsed.
Form LPT 5
Explanation as to why agreed sales price does not come within any of the general clearance conditions:
To allow Revenue to process your request for pre-clearance please submit, with this form:
• Supporting documentation to confirm that the valuation declared on your LPT Return was correct as at the valuation date (01 Nov 2021). This would include details of comparable sales from the Property Price Register, screenshots from Estate Agents websites, a professional valuation or any other documentation or explanation you have to support your declared value.
• A copy of sales brochure advertising the sale of your property (if none available online).
 
Interesting to see that in Form LPT5 they actually only look for evidence supporting valuation used at 01 Nov 2021, not the previous date. Tempting to read into this that in practical terms they are not seeking to go back and re-appraise the LPT paid from 2013-2021.

Revenue website suggests these procedures were implemented in June 2024, when they updated their practice note for LPT Part 11-01
 
Personally, as a conveyancing solicitor, I have had very positive interaction with LPT staff.
For 'in or around' matters, most of my clients have obtained Specific Clearance.
It is a bit of a faff, but for the sake of a saving of a couple of thousand euro, well worth that.

In more dramatic cases , a complete eejit can spot where the declared valuation by a vendor is so low that there isn't
the remotest chance that anyone, let alone the LPT people who are dealing with multiple cases every day, would regard the
valuation as reasonable.

I know for a fact that my next door neighbour has, with the best poor mouth in the world, wildly undervalued her house for LPT with the cutest 'arrah who will ever find out' approach.

mf1
 
Having recently gone sale agreed I'm now putting my own property up for sale and am in the homework phase on LPT! Thankfully I kept a spreadsheet as to how I arrived at the band I selected in 2021, but with the way price inflation is going at the moment, I will definitely need specific Revenue clearance. The amount of admin around all of this is depressing and with 23% vat payable every time you pass "go", I wonder why I ever started! Hoping Revenue take a pragmatic approach to property inflation .....
 
LPT is attached to the property, not the seller.
I sold a house recently.. was in probate for a long time... only registered in my name thence.
Revenue did not accept that the property was uninhabitable, and hit me with 10 years of LPT and penalties.. before I was allowed to sell.
Their definition of uninhabitable, is no doors, windows, derelict.
 
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