New House (not household) Charge for services directly from landlord

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"However, the tax will be payable by the property owner, meaning landlords will have to pay the bill and are therefore expected to pass on the costs to their tenants in higher rents. This provision will affect a host of social welfare recipients and low-income earners."

Another nail in the coffin of those who are in arrears



Higher Rents in this environment!!! :mad:

So now €200 (tax on second homes) + €100 - both non tax deductable I presume.

This should be a charge on the household as its for services and collected from them directly with no landlord involvement.
 
And the €100 a year is only a start.
Expect it to rise significantly in the coming years once people have accepted the principle of paying it.
 
Just out of interest, will people pay it?

Anytime the mention of a property style tax is on radio shows such as Liveline, there seems to be no shortage of people stating they will just not pay it.
Do people on this site think the majority of home owners will pay up?
 
Purple said:
I'll pay. I'm not a fan of tax evasion or any other form of theft.
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I think most people would be of that view but a property tax seems to annoy people more than other types of taxes. I can image those that coughed up huge amounts of stamp duty and/or are in negative equity would begrduge handing it over. I'm just wondering is there enough of them to bring it down.
 
Shawady said:
I think most people would be of that view but a property tax seems to annoy people more than other types of taxes. I can image those that coughed up huge amounts of stamp duty and/or are in negative equity would begrduge handing it over. I'm just wondering is there enough of them to bring it down.
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I've coughed up over €100'000 in stamp duty over the last 10 years and I'm in negative equity. The show still has to go on though.
 
"What do you mean? Do you consider all taxes to be '(legal) theft'?"


Taxes and Death, afraid I don't like either!!

Also read "Wasters", "Showtime" and "Snouts in the Trough" to see where a lot of your taxes went and are still going..........................
 
No-one likes paying (more) taxes but I'm curious what the difference is with this particular tax. If this tax isn't collected then some other tax will have to increase (or a new tax created) or spending will have to reduce. Is it the flat rate aspect or the Irish aversion to any charge related to property?
 
I have heard this discussed on the radio a couple of times and it always gets people worked up. The arguement usually goes along the lines of "I've paid thousands in Stamp duty. There's no way I'm paying a property tax. I've already paid one". Add to the mix that they may be in massive negative equity.
I'm personally not in that position but I just wonder if there are enough people that won't pay it will the government be able to make it work?
 
I think most poeple that claim they won't pay a property tax are all mouth.
When the bill comes with threats of interest and charges, and the possibility of not being able to sell until all outstanding taxes are paid, they will cough up.

Having said that, there will be a lot of poeple that genuinely won't have the money to pay.
 
callybags said:
I think most poeple that claim they won't pay a property tax are all mouth.
When the bill comes with threats of interest and charges, and the possibility of not being able to sell until all outstanding taxes are paid, they will cough up.
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Yep. I bet the reason that the NPPR tax gets paid as promptly as it does it that the annual penalty for not paying it is more than the tax itself.

That said, 100 p/a works out at 1.92 euros a week. That is not a lot of money to have to come up with.
 
beffers said:
Yep. I bet the reason that the NPPR tax gets paid as promptly as it does it that the annual penalty for not paying it is more than the tax itself.

That said, 100 p/a works out at 1.92 euros a week. That is not a lot of money to have to come up with.
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And will they allow you to pay 1.92 a week or will they expect the €100 up front. It's not a lot of money but for many people it is a large sum to suddenly find.
 
Given that this 100 euro is to include water charges it's going to be very difficult for the local authorities to try to convince people to reduce water usage when volumes are low...people can defend their actions now by saying that they are paying for it. It would have been much more equitable to bring in water metering instead :rolleyes:
 
Sunny said:
And will they allow you to pay 1.92 a week or will they expect the €100 up front. It's not a lot of money but for many people it is a large sum to suddenly find.
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I believe Phil Hogan said people will have the option of paying it in instalments.
 
ALMOST all households are set to be hit with a new €100 service charge to be announced this week, the Irish Independent has learned.

The Cabinet will sign off on the combined water and property tax tomorrow, despite the easing of the debt burden under the new EU bailout deal.
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We have our own well, do we get an exemption? :)
Or maybe pay half as it's a combined water & property tax? We can pay €50 for the property part but not the water

If the council want to charge they better get digging a trench to connect us! Not paying the council for water we don't get
 
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