When will dog owners 'get' that lots of people are afraid of dogs

I was badly attacked by a German Shepard on that road once who came running out of a garden, past other walkers and straight for me. I was bitten badly and scratched.

The owner subsequently arrived and actually abused me for kicking out at his dog. Another man passing helped me...

Real scary stuff..

I would be on to a solicitor the next day.

Stupid owner who lives opposite our house has a dog that "escapes" nearly every day. Barks at everyone from about 5 feet and runs back and forth across the road in front of cars. She stands there meekly calling the dog's name that completly ignores her. Eventually the dog is cornered and taken in. The owner doesn't seem capable of controlling her dog. It's terrible but I have taken a complete dislike to this person all because of the way she is unable to control her dog.
 
Stupid owner who lives opposite our house has a dog that "escapes" nearly every day.

I agree; people should control their pets. The problem is that for some strange reason cat owners think its ok to let their pets go into other peoples gardens and dig and poo as they please. If you own a pet then control it.
 
It's terrible but I have taken a complete dislike to this person all because of the way she is unable to control her dog.

I dont blame you - I feel the same way when I see people who cant control their dogs. They should have the cop on to either give the dog to someone who can control it, make a better effort to keep it restrained on and off their property or bring it to behaviour/training classes. Its just irresponsible to allow the dog to be out of control.
 
I understand people being threatened by loose dogs, in areas where they should not be.
Please try to understand my problem of a neighbour who complained that my dog, a trained and well behaved adult boxer, was with me in my garden.

My neighbour contacted the gardai and when they informed the neighbour that they would not be coming again if he raised a further complaint, he contacted the dog warden. The warden also met the dog and reported to the neighbour the same message. The gardai again phoned me to tell me that he was still complaining but asssured me that no action would be taken. I was very upset since I am a very responsible dog owner.

We have had 6 boxers and none of them had anything but a lovely playful nature. They are wonderful with children. Not one of our dogs are allowed in a public area without their lead. I hope people who are afraid of dogs will understand that there are lots of good owners too.
Most dog owners and lovers would be only too happy to help anyone who would like to to get familiar with a dog and overcome their fear.
 
I totally agree with you, as a dog owner also. Basically the people who do this are are a wee bit dim, some lack the brain capacity to conclude that the dog CAN (like humans) turn on some one or some other dog and in consequence either frighten or hurt a passerby. They are unfortunately usually the least able mentally or physically to control a dog if he gets aggressive, this I have encountered myself....they usally end up screaming like a baby...as useful as a Chocolate fire gaurd in that situation.

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That's a really nice message browtal. I do realise that most dogowners are considerate and careful and it's only a minority that think it's okay to let their dog run up barking and jumping at strangers. Unfortunately it's unfair on dogowners like yourself because I now tend to cower away a bit when I see any dog coming up the road towards me, even if they're on a lead which I know must be uncomfortable for the responsible owners.
 
Sorry to go against the grain, but I am a dog owner, and I think some of the posters on this thread are being a little bit OTT. Not necessarily the OP, but some other posters.

I never let my dogs jump up on strangers, but I will allow them to greet strangers if it is obvious to me that the stranger doesn't mind. If it is obvious to me that the stranger does mind, then I won't allow my dogs to greet that person and I move on.

But Liaconn, you need to accept that if you have a genuine fear of dogs, then that isn't the fault of every dog owner you meet. I refuse to keep my dog on a short leash 24/7 and away from people everywhere I go, just in case someone I come across has a medical disorder, viz cynophobia. Most people are naturally wary of strange dogs, but genuine cynophobia is rare.

Dublin is a living, breathing city that is full of dogs. They're a big part of many people's lives. If you don't like dogs, fine, then tell the owner it scares you and if that owner is reponsible, they'll restrain their dog. If they don't, they're idiots.

As for always keeping dogs on a leash in public, I don't always do this and I make no apology whatsoever for it. I always have my dogs on a leash on roads or pavements, principally because I don't want my dog run over or to cause an accident for others.

But when I'm in a public park or some other wide open public space away from traffic, I often let my dogs off the lead. The law requires me to have my dogs under control, not necessarily to have them on a lead. My dogs are well under my control when off the lead, and I'm the best judge of that. I will, however, take particular care around children, even though I know my dogs aren't aggressive. If there are toddlers or small children around, I will generally leash the dogs immediately, just in case one bumps into the other.

Some parks have byelaws that say dogs must be on a lead at all times, except for the first and last hours of the day. I resent this rule, because my dogs are under my control (as per the law of the land) even when they're off the lead. But I'll generally obey this rule when I come across it, begrudgingly, because I can understand why some people would support it.

The simple fact is: if you are scared of dogs, then it is you who has the unusual problem, so don't expect everybody else to know about it or to go around expecting to meet someone with cynophobia around every corner, and behaving accordingly.

Similarly, if you are a dog owner and someone tells you they are scared of dogs, then restrain your dog immediately, even if that person's reaction seems unusual or OTT to you. It is their personal right to ask you to keep your dog away, and you should respect this.
 
@RIAD BSC- I don't think your stance and the OPs are at odds. If you have a dog under your control when not leashed, then it's fine. But I ( and I think the OP) were talking about dog owners who leave dogs unleashed but do not or cannot exercise proper control over them. I have no problem with a dog owner leaving their dog unleashed, say on the beach- but this is a dog owner who watches their dog, and can give a command to the dog which will be obeyed.

In the instance I was talking about the dog would not return to its owner, was very big and repeatedly jumped up at my children and I. The dog was not agressive but its sheer size alone meant it would have knocked either child down or even myself if I was not ready for it.

One of my daughters is afraid of dogs- I agree that that should not prevent someone walking their dog down the street or leaving their dog unleashed in a park or open space- but the owner should then be able to stop the dog jumping up at someone or have them trained not to do this in the first place.

I always try to get my daughter used to dogs- but I ask the owner first if it's okay, if the dog will accept a stranger, if the dog is okay with children- I 've only ever had good experiences with dog owners who are in control of their animals. It's the other kind that is a pain.
 
Pet hate of mine since I had a baby - she's a toddler now. I used to be able to pick her up when a dangerous or over friendly dog approached but now I can't really as she's a heavy 2.5 year old and I'm heavily pregnant . . .so if a dog bounds up to us I could be in a right situation. If a dog knocked me over I wouldn't be able to get up again.

I can read dogs well and usually know if they're dangerous BUT it can be harder to know if the dog is going to jump up or be over friendly or keep its distance.

Most people are very good, if they see us and either have the dog leashed OR under control but the latter is rare.

My daughter had a bad scare in a park a while ago by a dog which was friendly but all over her so quick we hadn't a chance to pick her up - she was traumatised but the owner ignored the whole thing. At this stage my husband is just waiting for a chance to do serious damage to the next dog that hassles us . . . . .the owner is going to get some shock.
 
At this stage my husband is just waiting for a chance to do serious damage to the next dog that hassles us . . . . .the owner is going to get some shock.

Surely its unfair to the poor dog to take it out on him - its the owners fault when dogs are badly behaved.
 
It wouldn't be a malicious thing only if we really thought it might hassle us or attack. Of course we would defend ourselves.
 
It wouldn't be a malicious thing only if we really thought it might hassle us or attack. Of course we would defend ourselves.

Your earlier post talks of your husband doing serious damage to a dog - and I think thats the wrong atttiude, because its the owners fault if a dog is badly behaved, the dog is only doing what it owner allows it to do.
Its the owner who deserves to be damaged - not the dog.

Defending yourself is a lot different to doing serious damage to an animal who doesnt know any better. You can defend yourself by using a stick or umbrella to block the animal (or other methods that dont mean actually hurting the dog).
 
I agree that the owners are the problem. Saying 'he won't hurt you' or 'don't act afraid, that's why he runs up to you' is not good enough. It is their responsibility to keep their dog away from strangers, not mine to 'not act afraid' when I am afraid.

AnnR - that really annoys me, when a child is screaming its head off and the owner just walks on without so much as an apology. It happened to me with a small child in Bushy Park and I would still love to knock the pig ignorant guy's lights out.
 
Defending yourself is a lot different to doing serious damage to an animal who doesnt know any better. You can defend yourself by using a stick or umbrella to block the animal (or other methods that dont mean actually hurting the dog).

Just do what I did; pick the dog up and throw it into a river or pond. Dogs love to swim!
 
Just do what I did; pick the dog up and throw it into a river or pond. Dogs love to swim!


Tut, tut. Although I have to agree with you - besides a bit of a shock the dog was probably unharmed but the owner had to have wet smelly dog for the next few hours :)
 
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