If we really want change at the next election.....

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In my opinion there is no difference between Fianna Fail , Fine Gael and Labour.

Are we only fooling ourself into thinking there will be change by voting for any of these 3 parties?


If we are honest and really want change then we need to vote for Socialist parties or a new Political party.

I think unless we vote for a socialist party or new Political party we will have the same cycle over and over again.

Is it time for less Mé Fein and more Sinn Fein?
 
Are you looking for change just for the sake of change?

Do you really want Sinn Fein running the country?
 
Niallers said:
Is it time for less Me Fein
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An Independent TD tops the poll in our area every time and secures a lot for the area.

I think we'll see a lot more voters go Independent, try to secure their own Gregory Deal for their area.
But if one area gets more investment then others get less so obviously it can't work for everywhere

A TD who promises to try to save the county hospital is a lot more attractive then one who does what the party whip orders
 
callybags said:
Are you looking for change just for the sake of change?

Do you really want Sinn Fein running the country?
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No but I think Sinn Fein in coalition with Labour might work out better than Fianna Fail or Fine Gael.

I have never voted for the socialist party, Labour, Sinn Fein or any left leaning party but am seriously considering it for the next election..
 
Niallers said:
I have never voted for the socialist party..
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They're all socialist parties.

We seem have this view that our governments comprising FF & FG have been right leaning. In my opinion they're both closer to the left.

Any further left and you're into communism. Whereas the only right leaning party we've had in my memory were the PDs.
 
If Sinn Fein want my vote, they can
-apologise for all the people their military wing killed in the Troubles,
-apologise for blowing my desk up and my employers head office to pieces in the Bishopsgate bomb,
-apologise for rattling my windows in the Canary Wharf bomb,
-apologise for in general making the lives of Irish people living in the UK far more difficult in the 70s, 80s and 90s
-remove the terrorist supporting paraphanalia for sale on their website, including their number 1 best selling "undefeated army"T shirt and their 2011 Republican resistance calander
-elect a leader and deputy leader that actually live in and pay taxes in this country

then and maybe then, I might start to take them a bit more seriously
 
We need more than a new political party. We need a new system.

Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael, are the direct descendants of the opposing sides in the Irish civil war. They can apologise for that (and the collapse of the economy) before I'd even consider voting for them.
 
There is little between them in relation to competence but one stands out in relation to corruption.
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I would say this is only because the other two aren't in power.
 
Pique318 said:
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Economic Left/Right: 1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.67

Anyone else do it?

Looks like I'm a Fianna Fáil supporter :eek:

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And on this page, I'm pretty much the same as Hitler :eek:
 
At this stage I am almost completely convinced that:

A 90 odd % of all of our politicians are complete chancers and are clueless - and I'm not just sounding off, actually literally clueless. I mean it.

B I'd prefer a well meaning fool to a selfish one - but to compound that utter lack of political nous, the majority DO NOT CARE AT ALL about their electorate and what's more, treat them with extreme cynicism and derision.

I realise this may not be a revelation to many people and I have often expressed similar sentiments but really it was mostly letting off steam.

I now honestly believe the above.

I have no idea what I am going to do come election time but I vow to treat any politician who calls to my door with extreme hostility.
 
At this point, I think that changing the government is akin to changing the lifeguard as a tsunami is approaching.
 
The Irish government only really for show now anyway.
Our real leaders aren't in the Dáil.
 
micmclo said:
An Independent TD tops the poll in our area every time and secures a lot for the area.
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THIS IS THE KEY PROBLEM.

A TD is meant to work for the whole country, not for where's he or she is from.

But in Irl, they spend way too much time on local issues.
 
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