Sold my car, Buyer now decides he wants to return it 3 months later!!..

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marti18 said:
he bought the car sold as seen....i have sold many many cars this way and never had any crap like this. once he signed for it its now out of your hands.

let the gangster cry all he wants because its nothing got to do with you PERIOD
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But of course you are still a private seller and not a motor-trader, thus the Sale of Goods and Services Act doesn't apply for any punter buying one of your "many many cars" "sold...this way".
 
DB74 said:
Did you "forget" to pay the VRT on this one as well?

If so you can treat this post as a gentle reminder.
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Listen DB74, I never claimed at any point to have "Forgot" to have paid VRT or any Tax. Perhaps you would be better suited to read what I did say or ask me to clarify what you didnt understand before throughing your opinion unrelated to the OP in there,

Im originally from Louth but my wife is from belfast and we have lived in N.I for some years, We bought a guesthouse in 2001 and so all my tax affairs are in N.I. ( UK ) and therefore I am not liable to paying VRT in the south.

But I have in recent years invested in property and other things in the south and always paid Dirt, Stamp and any and every Tax or Duty which had to be paid wheither I agreed with them or not.

For anyone to attempt to call me a tax cheat is seriously insulting to me givin that I have paid possibly more tax and stamp duty in the south in recent years than I have up in the north here.

In the reply to the other post where I refer to all the fun and games that went on with the Government down south ( which I see no relivance to this post ) I feel that there should not be such a difference in prices for the same parts, he can get the parts in the US for $360 or somthing about that and to buy here they cost €1200, Thats crazy!!.. and the majority of the €1200 is all tax or vat ect. I struggle to see why he should have to pay Brian Cowans cowboys any import tax for parts he intends to use on his own car, its not as if he was making a massive profit on them by selling them on again ( Like some people obviously were by trying to charge him €1200 here on items that can be bought abroad for $350 USD ). I understand my comments might have been a little insencitive to any fina fail supporters ect but its my opinion that he should not have to pay import duty on some item for personal use!.. some may disagree and I accept that but its my opinion on that issue, If its law and the tax has to be paid then so be it, it has to be paid. but im just of the opinion it shouldnt, Not saying I would refuse to pay it just saying I dont agree with it.

I would just like to clarify again, I AM NOT and have never been in my life a tax cheat or have I ever avoided VRT due to the fact it does not apply to me..
 
mathepac said:
Let me take a wild guess here. Would the need to pay €4.5k in VRT on importing and registering the car in your name have any bearing on the poor memory, or is that just my cynical side showing?

If OP was NI-based the garage would have registered the V5 in OP's name on purchase, so that probably means the car was bought as a personal export with the V5 handed over at point of sale. (Just noticed OP's location says Co. Louth)

I agree it's not acceptable that you or your wife should have to be on the receiving end of abuse from the purchaser, but it's also not acceptable that the car be driven around with no VRT or tax paid on it in this country, thus abusing our taxation laws. I guess the old saying about birds of a feather might apply here.
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I am very much NI based and have been for some years im origianly a Louth man however, but I am exempt from paying VRT in the south as I live in N.I. now and my tax affairs are all here. I took the car to this garage back in April I think to get some repairs done and have it MOT'd and to get the garage to also Tax the car for me as I was out of the country. When I collected the car upon my return the V5 was in the glove box with the garage owners name on it, he told me to simply fill in my details and post it back to them but I forgot about it.

I hope this clarifys that I have NOT abused any southern tax laws as you suspected.
 
I think if all AAM'ers were as long winded in their posts as the OP, the whole system would grind to a halt. I bet he has this fancy dictation software - who has the time to write such lengthy posts!!


Eamonn T said:
Listen DB74, I never claimed at any point to have "Forgot" to have paid VRT or any Tax. Perhaps you would be better suited to read what I did say or ask me to clarify what you didnt understand before throughing your opinion unrelated to the OP in there,

Im originally from Louth but my wife is from belfast and we have lived in N.I for some years, We bought a guesthouse in 2001 and so all my tax affairs are in N.I. ( UK ) and therefore I am not liable to paying VRT in the south.

But I have in recent years invested in property and other things in the south and always paid Dirt, Stamp and any and every Tax or Duty which had to be paid wheither I agreed with them or not.

For anyone to attempt to call me a tax cheat is seriously insulting to me givin that I have paid possibly more tax and stamp duty in the south in recent years than I have up in the north here.

In the reply to the other post where I refer to all the fun and games that went on with the Government down south ( which I see no relivance to this post ) I feel that there should not be such a difference in prices for the same parts, he can get the parts in the US for $360 or somthing about that and to buy here they cost €1200, Thats crazy!!.. and the majority of the €1200 is all tax or vat ect. I struggle to see why he should have to pay Brian Cowans cowboys any import tax for parts he intends to use on his own car, its not as if he was making a massive profit on them by selling them on again ( Like some people obviously were by trying to charge him €1200 here on items that can be bought abroad for $350 USD ). I understand my comments might have been a little insencitive to any fina fail supporters ect but its my opinion that he should not have to pay import duty on some item for personal use!.. some may disagree and I accept that but its my opinion on that issue, If its law and the tax has to be paid then so be it, it has to be paid. but im just of the opinion it shouldnt, Not saying I would refuse to pay it just saying I dont agree with it.

I would just like to clarify again, I AM NOT and have never been in my life a tax cheat or have I ever avoided VRT due to the fact it does not apply to me..
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SparkRite said:
+1

Its "nice" to see that the moral police are still alive and well on AAM.
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Indeed. Ned Flanders and the "Won't someone please think of the children" brigade must be proud of themselves right now.
 
A fellow recently got into dire straights with the government for having two addresses. Perhaps, for clarity, you should add NI to Co.Louth. :D
 
Eamonn T said:
... I hope this clarifys that I have NOT abused any southern tax laws as you suspected.
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Actually what I did was ask a question out of puzzlement at the situation as outlined originally, thanks for the clarification. I stand over my musings and comments based on the information provided in the OP and your request for input.

BTW, those "southern tax laws" may be relevant in Cork & Kerry; the ones I try to abide by are Irish
 
mathepac said:
BTW, those "southern tax laws" may be relevant in Cork & Kerry; the ones I try to abide by are Irish
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Im sorry I wasnt aware that Cork & Kerry had different tax laws to the rest of the republic!!... By southern Tax Laws I obviously ment the tax laws of the Republic.. I did ask other AAMers for their input on the situation but I dont think I asked for any input or advice on any Tax, VRT issues If you had a question out of puzzlement as you say, simply ask it but instead you jumped the gun completly and assumed I was Avoiding tax or VRT in the south for years where you say " but it's also not acceptable that the car be driven around with no VRT or tax paid on it in this country, thus abusing our taxation laws. I guess the old saying about birds of a feather might apply here "

Its quite funny that regardless what a poster asks on AAM there is always someone who finds a way of attaking the OP with an issue completely unrelated to the OP!!..

Im sorry to sound perhaps confrontational with you but I really take offence to being labled " A Tax Cheat" by anyone who is not completly in the picture.
 
In fairness, you give your location as county Louth. You;ve contributed to the inferences that some people have drawn.

If you lead people to suspect, correctly or otherwise, that you;re not completely legit, you have to take some responsibility for any consequent commentary.
 
Did you give the same conflicting story to the buyer?

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The vehicle was registered to a garage up north here where I originally purchased the car

I purchased the car a few years ago in the UK I done a HPI check and it showed up HPI clear
 
irishmoss said:
Did you give the same conflicting story to the buyer?

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The vehicle was registered to a garage up north here where I originally purchased the car

I purchased the car a few years ago in the UK I done a HPI check and it showed up HPI clear
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Yes he was aware of the fact the vehicle was registered to the garage and the story was fully explained to him, he was also aware that the vehicle showed up HPI clear when I purchased it and I even give him the HPI report along with the cars full service history and all the booklets ect.
 
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All right, my son... now are you, or are you not in the market for a
suitable replacement for this fine vehicle, eh?
 
This is so confusing.
Did you buy the car in the UK as stated by you?
I purchased the car a few years ago in the UK

If so have you some relationship with the garage for them to have put their name down as the owners?

Before you sold the car why did you not register it in your name?

That should have been done if you were the seller.

If the buyer has issues with the car and the last owners as detailed on the log book was a garage then I can understand why he might try and sue the garage
 
irishmoss said:
This is so confusing.
Did you buy the car in the UK as stated by you?
I purchased the car a few years ago in the UK

If so have you some relationship with the garage for them to have put their name down as the owners?

Before you sold the car why did you not register it in your name?

That should have been done if you were the seller.

If the buyer has issues with the car and the last owners as detailed on the log book was a garage then I can understand why he might try and sue the garage
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Its not very confusing at all irishmoss but alot of posters seem to be trying to make it alot more complicated than it actually is with wild accusations!.. If you read post #25 the OP already has answered what you say confuses you. I cant believe the crap that has been thrown at the OP for doing nothing rong!!!.. He gets accused of being a Tax Cheat and slammed by so many "do gooders" its actually sickining because he has done absolutly nothing rong apart from being a bit of a push over in striking a deal with this conman!..
He asked for some helpful advice for the situation he is in but has got lectures on Tax evasion, fraud, and what seems to be anything and everthing that has no relivance to his situation,
Eamonn, Take my advice, close the thread as you seem to have genuinly expected to get helpfull advice for your unfortunite situation from other members but as usual you aint gonna get much helpfull advice on this site, only stone throwers and some people suffering from paranoia worried that you maybe didnt pay as much tax as they had too and have to stick the Tax knife in to you even when it has little or nothing to do with your situation !..
 
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