Stranded without family

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Hi just wondering if anyone has any helpful advice, i am an irish man married to a non-eu citizen we have two children and were very happy with life.I had been working in ireland 6 months a year and spending the other 6 in my wife,s country where we wanted to live but i was unable to find work.
I am now in the situation that i can,t get work here or there getting single man,s payment from welfare but still sole provider for family, because i am out of work there is no chance of getting a visa for my wife(or is there???).
Not interested in anyone who want,s to tell me about the unstable situation i created i already know that,just want to know if anyone has any advice.
 
Are you saying you want to return to Ireland and your not sure if your wife would get a visa.

There should be no problem in getting her a visa. Just apply. It has nothing to do with the fact that you are in employment or not it is down to citizenship.
 
Hi niceoneted
I am saying i am in Ireland my wife and children are not we have been refused a visa in the past on financial grounds.Are you saying that we are entitiled to a visa for my wife even though i am unemployed and therefore we would be reliant on the social welfare until things get better.
 
I think if you are Irish and you are married, your wife should be entitled to an Irish visa no matter what.
 
niceoneted said:
Are you saying you want to return to Ireland and your not sure if your wife would get a visa.

There should be no problem in getting her a visa. Just apply. It has nothing to do with the fact that you are in employment or not it is down to citizenship.
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They will need proof you can support your family here. They will keep repeating the line 'your wife/family is not guaranteed residence rights in Ireland'.

It would be better if you have a job first..or the offer of a job...and if you had any funds as the other poster said.

It sucks..it's racist in my opinion as there is no such rule on people actually living in Ireland already.
 
There is an unofficial table of income required, per number of dependants. I believe is it about €500-600 (€580?) per week for a wife and two 'non national' children. As the wife is not an EU national (do the children have Irish passports?) her passport/visa will have 'NO RECOURSE TO PUBLIC FUNDS' stamped on it. Which basically means you must be have enough income to support her, as the state will not pay (in theory) any money for her upkeep.
 
For what its worth, this situation has always been in place. Thirty years ago, (my God is it that long! :eek:) I returned to Ireland minus my foreign husband.
The plan was I would get a job and then he would follow - which I did and he did. He didn't have any problem getting a visa but once here we did face some difficulties securing a residency visa. I remember going into the Dept of Foreign Affairs every six months and going through the same rigmaroll every time, ie my ability to support him etc. (We never did claim a penny from the state). Eventually he got Citizenship through Naturalisation but it was a difficult and fearful situation as I always felt that if I had lost my job he could have been asked to leave. I once asked an official at the Dept.of F.A. and he said "i dont answer hypothetical questions" so take from that what you like. Best of luck, hope you get a job soon.
 
It makes a mockery of those to obey the rules against those who just arrive, get free board, lodging and pocket money for years. Then run up hundreds of thousands in legal frees up (at tax payers expense) before being sent back home years later.
 
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It makes a mockery of those to obey the rules against those who just arrive, get free board, lodging and pocket money for years. Then run up hundreds of thousands in legal frees up (at tax payers expense) before being sent back home years later.
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The worst case of this that we know about is Pamela Izevbekhai who has been shown not once, but twice to have used forged documents to try to remain in Ireland.

In late 2009 her legal costs had already reached half a million Euro. God knows what level it's at now. No doubt this is legal aid and the Irish taxpayer is funding her challenges.

It's extremely unfair to keep asylum seekers in limbo for years waiting to hear if they are going to allowed to stay or not. There should be a claim for asylum and, if that is turned down, there should be one appeal at which all aspects of the claim are scrutinised. If this appeal fails, the asylum seeker should be deported.
 
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