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Re: Public Sector Pay Agreement
How will the savings be made, if not from Public Sector pay cuts or efficiencies?
How will the savings be made, if not from Public Sector pay cuts or efficiencies?
It's in everyones interests that a deal was done. We need a functioning public service, not one crippled by industrial action. The Government has said it won't touch pay and conditions if savings are made. It is now to the Unions and their members to deliver those savings. The least they deserve is the opportunity to make them before we start calling it a wasted opportunity. The difference this time compared to previous times is that people outside Ireland are watching. There is no room for fudging issues or gamesmanship. There has be impact on the bottom line of the public finances.
For the sake of everyone, I hope they succeed despite my skepticism that they wont.
How will the savings be made, if not from Public Sector pay cuts or efficiencies?
Could it be the case that instead of reducing public sector pay, everyone will have to pay higher taxes?The government have also flagged they will introduce new taxes to increase revenue.
This should stop any strikes until the next budget.
The government as about nine months now to break the unions or outsource and privatise as much as possible.
There will be more public sector wage cuts in the next budget. There has to be or it'll be bankrupt country time.
Could it be the case that instead of reducing public sector pay, everyone will have to pay higher taxes?
The unrepresented will suffer, in other words?
Could it be the case that instead of reducing public sector pay, everyone will have to pay higher taxes?
The unrepresented will suffer, in other words?
I don't believe anyone should suffer apart from the government, and those directly responsible for the depression.So are you saying that public sector workers should absorb ALL required suffering?
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It is everyone's interest to have an efficient public service. The government has now given an incentive for public sector workers to accept reforms that will reduce costs. It won't happen overnight but if the deal is accepted at least it will bring some stability.
Where is the incentive in this deal? A commitment not to 'cut pay' does not mean that they can't impose further 'levies' instead. In addition, the fact that the Financial Emergency Measures in the Public Interest Acts of 2009 can be invoked as a cop out for anything else, makes this deal a bit meaningless for Public Servants.
What will this 'reform' entail?Would you not rather see savings by reform instead?
What will this 'reform' entail?
Remember, it'll have to save a huge amount of money.
I can't afford to pay any more tax
Cut jobs instead of pay?Well less people working in the public sector for a start.
Flexibility between departments would mean areas that are not busy could release staff to busier areas instead of replacing people that retire.
I don't think it would be simple or happen overnight but both the government and the unions suggested there was potential large savings without cutting pay
How will the savings be made, if not from Public Sector pay cuts or efficiencies?[/
I think we are going to see additional direct and indirect taxation including property tax and hopefully we will see the reintroduction of a wealth tax.
I think that there is a strong possibility that the PRSI ceiling will be abolished , however the advent of Mr. Lenihan's social contribution may render the question of PRSI reform moot.
Cut jobs instead of pay?
It's in everyones interests that a deal was done. We need a functioning public service, not one crippled by industrial action. The Government has said it won't touch pay and conditions if savings are made. It is now to the Unions and their members to deliver those savings. The least they deserve is the opportunity to make them before we start calling it a wasted opportunity. The difference this time compared to previous times is that people outside Ireland are watching. There is no room for fudging issues or gamesmanship. There has be impact on the bottom line of the public finances.
For the sake of everyone, I hope they succeed despite my skepticism that they wont.