You really think if Germans or the Dutch were freezing to death in their homes we'd continue to use as much gas as we want and not share it with them and the UK would do likewise? If the roles were reversed I believe the Germans/Dutch would cut their consumption, maybe dial down the patio burners, and share some of their gas with us. Again I don't for a second think it will come to pass, but I am certain if it did there would be shortages of gas and electricity here and frankly if there weren't I'd be on the streets asking why we were living it up while other EU citizens were suffering.
How are you preparing for gas shortages in the coming months?
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Are you really quoting your own post as some kind of evidence?
The German legislation applies to minimum room temperatures within apartments.
That's probably for the best.
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It'll be next to useless to burn unless you leave it first to dry out for the guts of a year.
We don't have gas in my area, I have an oil boiler and I am watching the price to top up, a tank full last me a year. If the electric goes off I cannot run the boiler and the solar panels won't work but we have a very efficient built in enclosed fire, we won't freeze, and a camping stove to cook on
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FWIW the boiler and circulation pump use a tiny amount of electricity, you’d run it for days from a solar battery or a small generator. Just need to make sure there’s an easy way if plugging the boiler/pump out and into an alternative source in advance!
Just to add to the food for thought...
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"Sitting outside the bloc, the UK may have to lean on its role as the conduit for gas supplies to EU member Ireland."
The UK has an energy security problem but does not want to admit it
If Russia cuts off gas supplies to Europe, Britain might not be immune to shortages amid rising competition for fuel
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"Sitting outside the bloc, the UK may have to lean on its role as the conduit for gas supplies to EU member Ireland."
Our home is heated by gas, as is it water. Our cooker is electric.
If we loose all gas supply, we've a couple of plug in heaters. Not ideal, but they'll warm a room or two.
If we lose electricity and need to cook, it'll be the charcoal BBQ, and dinner by candlelight.
Installing solar is not a realistic option, it's too expensive and we'd be a couple of decades trying to get a return on investment. The grants are foolish, as they've only resulted in prices of solar panels etc rocketing up. It was the same with the bike to work scheme - no one was buying a bike for anything even close to €1,500, before the scheme was launched.
If we loose all gas supply, we've a couple of plug in heaters. Not ideal, but they'll warm a room or two.
If we lose electricity and need to cook, it'll be the charcoal BBQ, and dinner by candlelight.
Installing solar is not a realistic option, it's too expensive and we'd be a couple of decades trying to get a return on investment. The grants are foolish, as they've only resulted in prices of solar panels etc rocketing up. It was the same with the bike to work scheme - no one was buying a bike for anything even close to €1,500, before the scheme was launched.
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By default all solar panels switch off if there's a blackout - can't have uncontrolled electricity seeping back into the lines when workmen are out fixing transponders and fallen poles. If you want solar to cover you in blackout, massive investment in batteries and different system to not shut off
When these issues come up I think to myself "There's a war in Europe between democracy and totalitarian dictatorship which it an existential threat to our entire way of life. I won't have to fight and die, my children won't have to fight and die, we're not going to be shot or blown up and we won't become refugees... but we'll probably be less well off, we'll have to cut back on the shopping and driving and we'll probably be a bit cold a few times next winter... that's it?! Wow, that's great news!"
I will be just like when we were kids 70 yr ago. No one had Cars, Electric Washing machines, TVs, Central heating, electrical kitchen appliances etc
It's Maggie Thatchers fault, she closed all of the coal mines in the UK
She preferred the nuclear option in multiple respects
My parents were children 70 years ago
Portable gas heater with 11kg canister - as it doesn't depend on electricity being on. I've going through the process of buying a home with storage heating thats only a D2 BER so I might make use of it. There is a gas inset fire that might or might not work (my guess is that its probably not working) so I might consider getting it taken out and replaced with a modern wood burner if I still have any money left. If the gas inset fire works I will probably get a second canister as its on a dual system, well in advance of when prices are expected to skyrocket in 6 months. I would love to do the full retrofit but there's no way I will have the money for at least 2 years.
Given the current relationship between the EU and UK, its unpredictable what UK might do, since their energy crisis is every bit as bad as ours & every likelihood Truss, the less able and more populist of the two Tory leadership candidates, gets elected.
When I was TCD my country classmates regularly used the sports facilities changing rooms in then sports hall to save on showers in their accomodation.
Current - district heating is common on the continent.
This is great news to me!
Absolutely, yes, rented a flat that had no hot running water for 2 years. It had a power shower and I boiled the kettle when I wanted to wash the dishes or hand wash clothes. My landlord also included ESB in the rent. Didn't put up my rent for 2 years. Then PRTB came into being, declared the flat substandard because of the lack of hot running water, forced the landlord to install this tiny thing under the kitchen sink. So the landlord clawed it back by ceasing my free ESB arrangement and fitted a meter with the rate set to 2x the then ESB rate. There was no comeback at that time, as there was at that time no rules around reselling of electricity to tenants, so after 2 months during which I found myself paying 40 euro a week on electricity, I gave my notice and moved somewhere else.
It might be complicated by the fact that Ireland is connected to a UK interconnector rather than a European one, and political situation in the UK being what it is could see that used as a political lever.
We stopped doing so. There is a significant find in Barryroe in Cork, but might be hard to get the Greens to sign up to it. There's also significant fields in Porcupine basin off Donegal but its deepwater, and after Rossport, no major producer or services company is going to want to ever, ever touch that side of the country again.
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Bought one of those small electrical portable oven with two hobs on top, just in case. We use gas for everything in our house. Also to be on the safe side we bought a small camping stove cooker plus a bottle of gas.