Legally you can't use the service UPC provide, because you can't attach anything to it. Classic isn't it! Sadly typical of UPC/NTL.
Attaching a decoder or any other device to recieve something for which you have not paid for, or are not entitled to recive is illegal.
Attaching equipment to recive something you have paid for can not be illegal.
You dont hear sky saying you have to use a Sky Digibox.
I am not suggesting that..If you're suggesting buying an off-the-shelf decoder to decode the upc digital feed, then that would, IMHO, be illegal.
colm said:If I use a Eurovox or Starview with out the EMU key turned on I am simply recieving the stations I have paid for with my basic subscription.
Attaching equipment to recive something you have paid for can not be illegal.
TarfHead said:If you're suggesting buying an off-the-shelf decoder to decode the upc digital feed, then that would, IMHO, be illegal.
I am not suggesting that..
That would be illegal ofcourse!
The OP was asking about the best type of box to buy. But the morality police took over.
I was simply trying to point out that it is not illegal to connect equipment to the NTL network if you are only recieving what you are entitled to
So If I have paid for Digital service can I not use a different brand of decoderThe only legal choice is the one NTL provide.
If this is true please state what law is being brokenAnd it's a criminal offense to use any non ntl box on their network.
If this is true how can you connect your television, DVR etc.Access to our services via any device other than what has been installed contractually by the company is illegal
So If I have paid for Digital service can I not use a different brand of decoder
If this is true please state what law is being broken
If this is true how can you connect your television, DVR etc.
False!!! Sky cards are matched to a single box. The extra card is an extra subsidised subscriptionNo , you can not. There is no NTL "card" to legally use a third party box. That is difference with sky, they give you a card that can legally by used in other boxes.
Where in that act does it state you must use NTL equipment
- Broadcasting Act 1990 - Section 9, 10 and 11
- Copyright and Related Acts 2000 - Section 372
- EC (Conditional Access) Regulations, 2000 (SI 357 of 2000) - Section 3
Irrelevant ! since NTL are claimingYour analogue tv does not decode a digital signal. If it did then it would be illegal.
Access to our services via any device other than what has been installed contractually by the company is illegal
...Your analogue tv does not decode a digital signal. If it did then it would be illegal.
False!!! Sky cards are matched to a single box. The extra card is an extra subsidised subscription
You are however allowed use any box to recieve free to air stations.
Where in that act does it state you must use NTL equipment
False!!! Sky cards are matched to a single box. The extra card is an extra subsidised subscription
You are however allowed use any box to recieve free to air stations.
I agree but jhegerty broght it upThis is two seperate issues isn't it.
Exactly what I am trying to say all along. FTA content can be viewed using any equipment. Legally the same applies to the NTL networkFTA content can be viewed without a card
I asked where in the act, not the T&Cs. The act is Law T&Cs do not make something illegalDid you not read my comment earlier. That is covered by their terms and conditions.
You are contridicting yourself here channels on Sky are either FTA or subscription channels. So it seems you agree that FTA channels are legally viewable on Sky via 3rd party equipment, so why would the same be illegal on the NTL network???? {confused}I am sorry, but you don't seem to have any idea what you are talking about.
Sky cards are only locked to one box for movies and sport. There are legal 3rd party boxes to watch a sky subscription channel with a valid sky card.
I agree but jhegerty broght it up
Exactly what I am trying to say all along. FTA content can be viewed using any equipment. Legally the same applies to the NTL network
I asked where in the act, not the T&Cs. The act is Law T&Cs do not make something illegal
You are contridicting yourself here channels on Sky are either FTA or subscription channels. So it seems you agree that FTA channels are legally viewable on Sky via 3rd party equipment, so why would the same be illegal on the NTL network???? {confused}