bearishbull said:According to land registry figures prices of apartments are falling in manchester ,i also hear rental yields arent great and if you borrow in sterling rates are much higher than here,proceed with caution.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/in_depth/uk_house_prices/regions/html/region2.stm?f
nopotatos said:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/in_depth/uk_house_prices/html/bn.stm
this says property prices have gone up 18% in the last year. I find that hard to believe
money man said:Make sure you know your letting agent. it is difficult to get a good one in manchester that will actually look after it. also do alot of research into management/letting fees. esspecially tenant finders fees which now in manchester seem to run at 1 months rent and 2months in some cases. if there is a call out / problem make sure there is someone you can send out of your letting agent who wont rob you and the old 20% rule you need to be careful of... (few quid to letting agent from trades)
I am shocked how many people buy property without adequately researching it. sit down and find out the proper market rent (easy to do ..rightmove etc) then work out all costs ( ring letting agents) factor in vacant period, some repairs, and management fees ..typically 700-800 pounds, bank account charges, money transfers , at least an annual trip, etc. i would be very surprised if your yield was over 3%
bearishbull said:the latest figures havent come out for manchester for 2nd quarter, the land registry data indicates apartments/flats rose 1.6% in the normally most busy part of year. i wouldnt be suprised if theres close to an excess in city centre apartments,the gross rental yields in like of hacienda building are only around 5% with interest rates at 4.5% and councill tax etc eating into your yield. Manchester market as a whole including all property types fell 1.6% in first quarter and nationwide building society recently said in june house prices fell in uk as a whole by 1.2%. Bank of England may raise rates soon and this could further affect market.
money man said:Hi propman, could you tell me how much one of these apartments would be in the city centre (preferably the one you used to work out the 4% yield) and also how much the rent would be.( realistic)
Propman said:Moneyman
Great Northern Quarter is £400 for small one bed, coming down to apporx £360 for two bed.
Propman
Propman said:Moneyman
Will have to dig out details at home for you but from memory:
Purchase Price: £198,400 (including car park)
Rent: £850 per month = £10,200 per annum
Minus: Ground rent £200 per annum, service charge £1,250, management @ 8%* + 17.5% VAT = £958 per annum.
Net rent of £7,792/purchase price £198,400 = 3.92% net yield.
* I appreciate most agents charge 10% but there are agents who will do it for less.