Maybe those people enjoy their lives Cello, you've really got to lighten up, this cultural elistism you got going on can't be pleasant. There's no need to be so judgemental, live and let live.....but the generic ones, the ones who have bought into the consumerist's dream, the ones who have 5 credit cards and think that cold-looking resteraunts with aluminium and UV lighting are classy joints, the ones who spend their saturday afternoons 'in town' going around the shops - I depise such shallow, materialistic and uncultivated people
Maybe those people enjoy their lives Cello, you've really got to lighten up, this cultural elistism you got going on can't be pleasant. There's no need to be so judgemental, live and let live.....
Anti-Irish Irish media?
Which newspapers? Which journalists?
Call it a sociological case study - I'm quite serious! I have gone to observe such people in their habitat...
Why should I move?
You'll find this attitude wherever you go, anywhere in the world.
The daily telegraph is no more anti-irish and probably less so than the anglo-phobia that is prevalent in the Irish media.
Ooops.. Apologies. In my rush to 1000 posts I guess I'm not reading everything as fully as I should.
Well that's alright then. Calming down now..
... I depise such shallow, materialistic and uncultivated people. God love them though, they're probably so busy slaving away on the corportate ladder that they don't get the time, nor the inclination to think or dream about anything other than the next pair of shoes or the forthcoming boozy weekend. They annoy me, and I wish they'd go away - a good recession should be enough to restore a bit of decorum.
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]All the animals come out at night - whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain [recession] will come and wash all this scum off the streets.[/FONT]
I don't think so. As a non-national also, I found appalling the poor coverage international news get here. Unless one or more irish citizen are killed somewhere outside the country, when then you might get something. I can't tell you what are the news like now back at home, have been gone for 4 years, so things might have change, but it used to be first international news (mainly US, any war around the world, etc etc) National (if in a local tv station, that would include local news, that might not make it to the national stations), and then sports (which gets to much attention for my liking anyway...as there are specialise programs for that)
I remembered being home when the money that was stolen in NI was found out in Cork, and learnt about it from the newspapers at home.....same when Dolores Mcnamara won the Euromillions, family were asking if BF family new her, mind you anything like that happening outside Ireland, you wouldn't know.
Some news are only reported, as the recent train accident in Valencia, because it was thought to be a terrorist attack, otherwise it wouldn't have been mention.
Cello, you may be making the mistake of not distinguishing between the projected image and the reality.We're now a nation of hethons, ignorami, illiterates and carousers.
ronan_d_john;270671i said:Please elaborate on the "pile of dog doo doo" that we're heading for.
Manufacturing in decline, interest rates skyrocketing, no control of the economy because of the ECB, 30% of the workforce directly or indirectly involved in the construction business, Brussels looking at the 12.5% rate.
Ireland's interest rate is currently 3%, 1.5% less than the United Kingdom. Interest rates globally (EU, UK and US) are on the upward trend, so we're likely to see this gap remain rather than converge in your timeframe.
Unlike Ireland, the UK (thankfully) still has independent control of its interest rates. If you think the ECB will hold rates because of property prices in Ireland you are sadly mistaken.
Ireland's rate of inflation in July was exactly the same as the United Kingdom - 2.4%.
Agreed, but see my previous point.
As for personal debt levels, by all accounts the United Kingdom is in worse doo doo than Ireland - have a look [broken link removed].
Again, agreed. There is huge level of personal debt here - but I honestly believe we are over the hump.
And while we're at it, remind me where school children have been stabbed to death because they were black? Or where town and city centres were badly damaged because of race riots? Or where one of the biggest growing political parties is called the BNP?
Ahem, hello?? Have you managed to venture out recently mate? Ireland is a sea of simmering racism, an undercurrent which will come out in the next few years. Maybe you live in a nice D4 semi, where you are not exposed to the tension, but believe you me its there. Have a walk through Dell in Limerick, ask a carpenter in Dublin, ask the council in Meath.
Remind me also where there was a housing collapse in the last decade or two? I'm sure it wasn't in Ireland anyway.
"We are different, it won't happen to us". Dunno if you did Economics mate in your Leaving, but did you ever hear of cycles? Course Ireland is different.
Congratulations to you and your great job and prospects in London. Having been there, done that, and bought the t-shirt for a number of years myself, I hope things stay rosy for you. Just beware, that as a non-national yourself over there, that you too could end up in some doo doo as well.
Really. So a job where I have a defined career path, a salary increase every year, an opportunity to sit on the board of Directors etc should be given up.
And finally, if you're going to cast aspersions on your own country, and by association with all of us who who still live here and pay taxes in order to support your family in their old age, please be specific, accurate, and non-alarmist. In the (almost) words from Dragnet, "just the facts, sir!!!".
I have to say people like you are also a major reason why I wouldn't go home again - people who would rather sit in the pub and talk about how much they have made this week in "equity" and deluding themselves on the never never of false economy of stupid property prices. I hope it holds well for you.
fitzy73 said:Again, agreed. There is huge level of personal debt here - but I honestly believe we are over the hump.
fitzy73 said:Have you managed to venture out recently mate?
fitzy73 said:Dunno if you did Economics mate in your Leaving
fitzy73 said:I have to say people like you are also a major reason why I wouldn't go home again - people who would rather sit in the pub and talk about how much they have made this week in "equity" and deluding themselves on the never never of false economy of stupid property prices. I hope it holds well for you.
fitzy73 said:Really. So a job where I have a defined career path, a salary increase every year, an opportunity to sit on the board of Directors etc should be given up.
in Ireland, and by implication, the UK is a much better place to be. I say, what's the difference between manufacturing output here declining, and declining in the UK - see here.fitzy73 said:Manufacturing in decline,
You've already acknowledged that you're not correct here.fitzy73 said:interest rates skyrocketing,
Not strictly true. We haven't had control over our interest rates since 1998. We've always had control over our economy.fitzy73 said:no control of the economy because of the ECB,
fitzy73 said:30% of the workforce directly or indirectly involved in the construction business, Brussels looking at the 12.5% rate.
fitzy73 said:Unlike Ireland, the UK (thankfully) still has independent control of its interest rates.
fitzy73 said:Ahem, hello?? Have you managed to venture out recently mate? Ireland is a sea of simmering racism, an undercurrent which will come out in the next few years. Maybe you live in a nice D4 semi, where you are not exposed to the tension, but believe you me its there. Have a walk through Dell in Limerick, ask a carpenter in Dublin, ask the council in Meath.
fitzy73 said:"We are different, it won't happen to us". Dunno if you did Economics mate in your Leaving, but did you ever hear of cycles? Course Ireland is different.
fitzy73 said:Really. So a job where I have a defined career path, a salary increase every year, an opportunity to sit on the board of Directors etc should be given up.
fitzy73 said:I have to say people like you are also a major reason why I wouldn't go home again - people who would rather sit in the pub and talk about how much they have made this week in "equity" and deluding themselves on the never never of false economy of stupid property prices. I hope it holds well for you.
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