Paul O Mahoney
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My tuppence is to move on, its difficult but your time at that company is coming to a close and for your own sanity and mental wellbeing just hand in your notice and leave. ( they might let you go with pay)Here is an update.
I appealed grievance outcome from last year. Appeal is still ongoing. I returned to work a few months ago and just got my head down and got on with it.
I have secured a new job starting in couple of months but have not yet handed in notice. Will do so in coming weeks in accordance with contractual notice period.
Should i hand in notice and cite constructive dismissal on basis that grievance appeal has still not been dealt with it(They have progressed it though). A final straw type situation.
I may have accepted any wrongdoing by my employer just by continuing to work there. Although, i would argue that i have been waiting for grievance to conclude. Its frustrating that its still ongoing.
I know that constructive dismissal claim is limited to loss of earnings which would be essentially zero as id be starting elsewhere almost immediately after finishing. However, im aware that there is a token payment, in this scenario, of 4 weeks wages so thats worth pursuing.
Any advice, comments, suggestions would be very welcome. Thanks.
Here is an update.
I appealed grievance outcome from last year. Appeal is still ongoing. I returned to work a few months ago and just got my head down and got on with it.
I have secured a new job starting in couple of months but have not yet handed in notice. Will do so in coming weeks in accordance with contractual notice period.
Should i hand in notice and cite constructive dismissal on basis that grievance appeal has still not been dealt with it(They have progressed it though). A final straw type situation.
I may have accepted any wrongdoing by my employer just by continuing to work there. Although, i would argue that i have been waiting for grievance to conclude. Its frustrating that its still ongoing.
I know that constructive dismissal claim is limited to loss of earnings which would be essentially zero as id be starting elsewhere almost immediately after finishing. However, im aware that there is a token payment, in this scenario, of 4 weeks wages so thats worth pursuing.
Any advice, comments, suggestions would be very welcome. Thanks.
Im just wondering aloud...what have i got to lose by citing the fact that my long running grievance has not yet been dealt with, when I check out. Its easy for me to submit a complaint to the wrc and why wouldnt I?
Be interested to hear a persuasive argument for why I should not.
I been through the WRC process three times now... It's not a very difficult process to navigate and the financial costs are near to zero.. It can be done by yourself with no need for solicitor's on your side... The same cannot be said about the other side.. They may engage solicitors and barristers as happened in my case.I agree with the comments about moving on and putting it behind you. There’s a value to that if you think you can move on.
On the other hand, it might irk that you left without justice being served and the impulse to give them a bloody nose on the way out may seem strong.
A grievance procedure that takes as long as it seems to on this occasion seems flawed and, procedurally, the company seems exposed.
You could argue that the company’s failure to properly administer your grievance left you with no option but to leave. As with any constructive dismissal case however, the burden of proof is with you. From reading the history, it could be argued that you didn’t agitate forcefully for a resolution but the company should definitely have handled this better, if only to reduce their own exposure.
I been through the WRC process three times now..
Depends what field you work in and at what level, many of the big employers will pay background checking services to search that kind of information. The more senior the role, the deeper the checks.Im not too bothered about the publicity, why would I be. I dont think prospective employers would trawl through wrc cases but maybe they do.
Should i wait until i serve my notice before submitting a case to wrc or do it now?
They don’t care. Deal with that.I have lost all trust and confidence in my employer.
100%. I know this.They don’t care. Deal with that
Application to the WRC will take at least at year and more likely longer before you even get your hearing.100%. I know this.
The trust and confidence thing is something i was advised to include in my resignation. It happens to be true as well.
Ill submit a complaint to wrc, nothing to loose. Few quid to gain. And i know that they know that i have a decent legal basis for my claim.
It's much more important for you to get on with your life and put this nasty experience behind you... In the big scheme of life is potentially a months salary worth the emotional burden this may cause you..it may be very difficult for you to switch off and this grievance might be going around your head for the next year!!Minimum ill get is 4 weeks wages so, for me its prob worth it and i dont mind it taking 12 or more months.
I dont care if they apologise or not, to be frank, im a big boy.
Genuine question - why wouldnt it be worth it? What have i got to lose given that its a simple process, im happy to represent myself etc?
Its more of a nuisance for employer than for me!!
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