village idiot
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Hi haille,Trying to decide whether to take out private health insurance.I am 57 and my wife is 56. We dropped private health insurance over 21 years ago.I had to attend hospital once for blood transfusion via public system all free. If we both join before next week cheapest policy is working out at near €1000.We cannot claim in the first year as we would have 52 week waiting period.If we upgrade to a better policy later we would also have a further waiting period.We are both fit and healthy.I have ran 28 marathons, train daily and my wife walks every day. I know it still does not guarantee good health.We both do not care whether it is a public ward we end up in.Am I correct in saying that under the public system that the max that one is expected to pay in any 12 month period for a hospital stay is €750.Are operations extra on to this? I paid salary protection policy for 23 years .When I tried to get the insurance company to tell me how much money I had wasted they would not give me the figure.I guessed myself €14,000. So As we have saved on private health insurance over the last 21 years should we continue ? It seems that under the above quotes we got from some companies you are paying €1000 in the first year for nothing as you cannot make claim.If you decide to upgrade and get a decent policy you will have a further waiting period.Is this Fine Gael's notion of Universal Health coverage get everybody take out private health insurance and then exclude certain age groups for lenghts of time. Why do not private health insurance companies give one the option of undergoing rigorous medicals , join up then.What is the purpose of a 52 week waiting period. I go to great length to take care of my own health , diet, exercise and lifestyle .It seems Insurance companies are not interested in taking this into account.End of rant!
I've one question, if anyone can help?
If I don't take out insurance, but pay for any scans or diagnosis myself, can this speed up access to the public health system, which then should leave the rest of my treatment free, except for the bed charges??? I wonder if this could work, as the problem with the public system is always quoted as being one of accessing the system/getting diagnosed, and after that, outcomes seem level with both systems?
Any thoughts as to whether this is a strategy that could work?
I'd also be interested in any thoughts on the query above...
I'm new to the whole private insurance party, having lived in UK from my early 20s til a few years ago. Now at 46yo trying to decide whether it is worth laying out the cash for a monthly premium...
Hi greentea,
Welcome to AAM.
Regarding your query relating to previous post by duffsaw, whether paying for scans and diagnosis yourself, can speed up access to the public health system. When dealing with the public hospitals as a public patient(no health insurance) potentially there are 3 different waiting lists. 1. Scans 2. Consultant 3. Surgery.
The potential wait for certain scans could be months or year+ depending on the type of scan. Waiting for a consultant visit could be 1year+ and finally waiting list for surgery could be 1-2 yrs depending on the type of surgery and how chronic you are.
If you are prepared to pay for scans and consultant visit, this will eliminate the first 2 waiting lists. However, unless you are prepared
to pay for surgery yourself, at that stage you will go onto the public waiting list for surgery.
Even people with health insurance go onto the same public waiting list for surgery in the public hospitals now, since the changes came
in relating to bed re-designation in public hospitals.
So while paying for scans and consultant visits can speed up access, there is still a fair amount of waiting involved for surgery.
If you are considering health insurance, it is worth including private hospital cover on the plan to give a broader range of options.
Regards Snowyb
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