Who's for the Final?



Which is why they shouldn't have been classed as underdogs. Tipps hurling has been very good to watch but noone can say that waterford didn't deserve a final after so many years of nearly getting there, I just hope that getting there isn't regarded as a great achievement or they will be well and truly walloped by kilkenny.
 

Sports analysis by fans always gets exaggerated so I wouldn't take great offence to the 'bad club' jibe. I think its the perceived arrogance of the Dub footballers and the level of ceoverage they get considering how little they achieve that colours so many views.
 
What really annoys me is when a certain amount of the Dublin supporters can't get themselves to the venue on time and the match has to be held up. Its on their doorstep and this does'nt happen with any other county.
 
MrMan said:
but noone can say that waterford didn't deserve a final after so many years of nearly getting there
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You don't deserve a final for having a history of under-achievement. You earn a final by winning a semi-final.
 
Whether Waterford deserve to reach a final is a matter of opinion. I think it is clear that they are good enough a team to play in a final. The fact that they have come so close to doing so on several occasions in the past will mean that most people will be rooting for them against Kilkenny. They will be underdogs but they have a chance - their position now is not a whole lot different to the "underachieving" Donegal team prior to the 1992 football final.
 
Against Kilkenny they will want to be outstanding as there are no weak links anywhere on the Kilkenny team and they have as good on the bench. We see how they beat a strong Cork team. You never know on the day what happens and with Davy in charge no doubt they'll be right up for it.
 
MrMan said:
I think its the perceived arrogance of the Dub footballers and the level of ceoverage they get considering how little they achieve that colours so many views.
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Who perceives them as arrogance? The reality is that the majority of Ireland's tv stations and other media are based in Dublin. These media, especially tv, are interested in audience numbers and Dublin bring them those numbers.
 
Ash 22 said:
What really annoys me is when a certain amount of the Dublin supporters can't get themselves to the venue on time and the match has to be held up. Its on their doorstep and this does'nt happen with any other county.
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Agreed. In Ireland unlike other places the Gardai cannot put a match on at a certain time of public order grounds. They do that for Old Firm matches in Scotland. If they put a Dublin match on at 12 noon and closed pubs until the match was over, then the message would get through.
 
YOBR said:
Who perceives them as arrogance? The reality is that the majority of Ireland's tv stations and other media are based in Dublin. These media, especially tv, are interested in audience numbers and Dublin bring them those numbers.
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everyone outside Dublin I would think. The TV stations are based in Dublin to serve the country, there are far more people living outside of Dublin than in it.
 
As a modest Kerryman ........ I just hope that the ensuing matches are entertaining. But I do think that the media have a malevolent role in Dublin's demise. Like the British tabloids that hype the English soccer team out of all proportion ....... here, the Herald especially, pump up the hopes of the Hill and in doing so, put tremendous pressure on the players. At the mo, I'm working in Kerry and the players are just like ordinary people (apart from one or two) who get on with their lives. Here in Dublin they are celebs. The hunger is there but there are just too many distractions.
 

I agree that the media does hype up Dublin and it's not a positive thing. I would disagree that Dublin players are celebs, indeed such a comment is just plain untrue. I would imagine that all the Dublin players, and management went back to their day jobs on Monday, doesn't sound like a celebrity lifestyle to me? They may pick up more endorsements than other county players, so what should they do, turn them down?
 
I must say Kerry is a team I really admire. I like they're style of football, they're attitude. They come on a mission to win and usually do! At the end of the game I don't see any wags or babies being handed around for photographs!!
 
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